[06:02] *** Hien has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [06:03] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [06:37] Hey how do all of you back up your freebsd boxes? I'm using duplicity/duply, but it's a pain in the ass. Anything simpler? [06:45] depends what you're backing up.. most of my FreeBSD box are in VPS with small initial disks and use rsync to a main backup server [06:50] Well ideally I'd like to back up the whole thing, which is what I'm doing with duply/duplicity right now [06:50] because otherwise I will invariably forget to put a certain directory in the backup [07:00] *** relrod_ has joined #arpnetworks [07:00] *** relrod_ has quit IRC (Changing host) [07:00] *** relrod_ has joined #arpnetworks [07:06] *** relrod_ is now known as relrod [07:12] there are the built in options dump & restore which can simplyfy file system backps across a network [07:13] havent used them much myself, but they are quite effective [07:13] Yeah I've used those on my box locally here, but only to play with. Maybe I should give them another look [07:14] aye, just remember to run them through SSH tunnels though (iirc they dont have network crypot built in) [07:14] crypto* [07:15] i've long deployed a different strategy now where i use ezjails.. i can fresh install and dump the jails back in a short space of time.. save so much hassle [07:16] in the outer OS, use as little as possible - that way you really only have one folder to backup [07:18] that's a really good idea [07:18] all my web stuff is in an ezjaiul. [07:18] ezjail. [07:19] But my database, dns, mail, that stuff is on the main box. [07:19] basically, other than mail, anything that accepts incoming connections from the world gets jailed. [07:21] WOW [07:21] microsoft donated to openbsd. [07:50] sweet [07:50] do remember reading they had lecci bill issues earlier this year [07:51] glad my electric costs aren't that much [08:16] Not only that, but a *Gold* contributor [08:16] aka "More than Google" heh [09:48] I put everything in git repos, then back up ~git using tarsnap. [09:55] hmm that's an interesting strategy mike-burns [09:56] ~% ls ~git | wc -l [09:56] 53 [10:23] that's a lot of repos [10:54] You think 53 is a lot? lol... [10:54] (ie. "that's so cute") [11:17] hah [11:17] never thought of using git for backups [11:19] reminds me.. got to pull a large backup transatlantic for an upgrade (which is going to nuke my setup again) [12:21] bloody heck my mail servers reject an awful lot of connections (mostly RBL based rejects) [13:39] brycec: i saw it said gold, but couldn't see anywhere what that meant [13:39] mercutio: more than $25.000. [13:39] (assuming you're talking about the MSFT donation to the OBSD Foundation) [13:39] cool well it looked like that was how much it used to cost them normally [13:40] err more than [13:40] and now they hav lots of money :/ [13:40] Don't ever let that discourage you from donating though. There will be a time when the corps don't donate and they'll rely on their bank [13:40] although i'm sure they prefer to sepend more of it :) [13:41] yeh there was bank stuff before [13:41] err spending of previous mone [13:41] y [13:41] shit i need my coffee :) [14:11] I have often thought of using git for etc folders. [14:12] There's git-annex too which tracks the changes, but doesn't store the files themselves. [14:14] interesting [14:14] So can you still go back to previous revs? [14:14] That's my understanding [14:30] you can always just add some files to it [14:31] you don't have to track everything.. just do backups for things that don't change? [14:31] but yeah if you store /etc/passwd everywhere you may be reducing your security [14:31] well /etc/shadow [14:31] i like keys over passwords anyway [14:37] wow, another 0 day flash exploit [14:39] right that's true. [14:39] But I could .gitignore passwd and master.passwd [14:43] @weather akl [14:43] Auckland International, New Zealand: Overcast ☁ 45°F (7°C), Humidity: 66%, Wind: From the South at 13 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl [14:44] that's much warmer than it feels :) [14:50] To be fair, with such a breeze it's going to feel much cooler than that. [14:50] a la "windchill" [14:51] I've been to AKL [14:51] nice airport. [15:18] awyeah: location of the airport sucks :) [15:18] there's like nowhere good anywhere nearby [15:20] ever since android 5 my phone seems to have charging issues [15:20] but it never feels very warm [15:26] oh [15:26] well I never left that airport [15:26] it was just a connection on my way to Wellington. [15:29] yeh [15:29] i haven't been to wellington airport actually [16:59] the hotel bar here in Porto Alegre is selling "shots" of Smirnoff Vodka for about $4.50 US (14 Reals). [16:59] Except, I don't think they know what a shot is. I'm getting a largish glass filled with what I estimate to be 3 to 4 shots each time. [17:00] so I'm getting 4.5 to 6 ounces of decent vodka for that price... in a hotel. [17:09] That's a pretty good deal. [17:09] That's what she said!! [17:09] have them give you some cranberry juice with your 'shots' [17:21] cannot consume cranberry juice [17:23] has nothing useful for me [17:24] well, maybe minor micronutrients [17:24] but the macronutrients overshaodw [17:24] i enjoy cranberry juice, but only small amounts at a time [17:24] not for nutrients. just the taste [17:24] That's what she said!! [17:24] yeah. I've learned that "just the taste" can kill me, slowly. [17:26] mercutio: check out this image on your 4k monitor when you get a chance and let me know what you think : http://mnathani.com/uploads/2015-07-08_panorama-take2.jpg [17:27] Its a view out my apartment [17:31] Yeah - I just paid $15 USD for about 2/3 of a Smirnoff Vodka bottle, and I'm in a hotel. [17:38] it looks pretty coool the colours suck though [17:39] wow it looks so much sharper on 4k than 1440p [17:40] heh i just got tinted glasses, a few pairs, so now i'm trying with different tints [17:41] amber tint seems to make it look more defined.. [17:41] if you zoom in to the top left area, you should see the cn tower [17:42] whem i zoom in it's really soft [17:42] That's what she said!! [17:42] there are a lot of trees [17:43] hmm amber tints make my white levels on my two monitors look totally different [17:43] I should do another one in the fall [17:43] but normally i don't notice [17:43] I dated a girl named Amber Tints once... [17:44] i need to fix my colours i think [17:44] are you using HDR? [17:45] i was curious if 10% yellow tint would make any noticable difference to comptuer use [17:45] That doesn't look HDR [17:45] dont think so [17:45] the whites are blown out [17:45] yeh that's what i thought [17:45] the darks also [17:46] i think that's why i thought colours looked bad [17:46] i'm used to HDR for big pictures :) [17:46] typical 5 to 7 f-stops [17:46] just a pano [17:46] this one was done with a simple point and shoot [17:46] nice pano though [17:47] tripod helped [17:47] heh... all of mine have been hand-held [17:47] but with pano assist [17:47] no wait... the early ones all just "doing it" [17:48] what do you use to stitch the images? [17:48] trying to find the seattle skyline that I did with a pano [17:48] something on flickr [17:49] Neat, mnathani_ [17:53] brycec: thanks [17:55] Here is a 2 minute timelapse as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qw7SNrWtY [17:55] YouTube video: "2 Minute Clip - View From 20th Floor in Toronto ON" by Mansoor Nathani [17:56] canadian... is it in metric? [18:01] And now I have mnathani_'s address (shy of the apartment number, though that wouldn't take long to "brute force") [18:01] lol brycec [18:02] (It's what I do, I solve puzzles) [18:02] a simple whois would have revealed that information if you were so inclined [18:02] @postal M3A3K7 [18:02] M3A: North York (York Heights / Victoria Village / Parkway East), Ontario, CA [18:03] give or take. [18:04] (it was easy since I knew the general city, and Rothman's sign+building is so clearly visible) [18:05] heh when i was a kid i used to love stalking people [18:05] i grew up a bit and realised that some people might find it intrusive :) [18:06] Sure sure. [18:06] err by stalking i mean finding out their details etc without asking them [18:06] even if i could have easily asked them it was more fun to find out by alternate means [18:06] I agree, it's borderline-creepy :) But it's just a puzzle for me. [18:06] yeah ditto :) [18:06] Right, exactly. [18:06] it went out of fashion [18:06] it's back in fashion now with facebook etc though [18:06] ha [18:07] like if you have open facebook profile and do a job interview don't be surprised if they check it out [18:07] I definitely do a quick, cursory Google looking for other work, red flags or commonalities. [18:09] Sadly there's no challenge in finding me, since I have some federal licenses that are publicly searchable and required to have my address [18:12] yeh apparently it's really common with low paying jobs now [18:12] they check peoples facebook profiles to see if they are disreputable. [18:12] (higher turnover etc, more difficult employees etc i suppose) [18:13] hello [18:14] hi static [18:15] sup [18:16] nm [18:17] exercising the power of my new GPU [18:17] I doubt IRC is very taxing staticsafe [18:18] heh [18:18] heh [18:18] i've hardly tested my new gpu [18:18] mnathani_: Clearly you've never run retroterm [18:18] i got one a while back [18:19] but seriously 6GB of VRAM [18:19] * staticsafe drools [18:19] i have 4gb vram [18:19] hawt [18:19] That's what she said!! [18:19] I have 2GB :/ [18:19] i played tomb raider [18:19] got bored of it quickly [18:19] https://www.dropbox.com/s/uferyoyydo9d4fu/2015-07-08%2013.40.52.jpg?dl=0 [18:19] but it looked pretty, i was blown away [18:19] Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/uferyoyydo9d4fu/2015-07-08%2013.40.52.jpg?dl=0" [18:19] i didn't have any recent games. i mostly play dota :/ [18:20] i have no disk space for games atm :( [18:20] getting a new ssd [18:20] does that work in linux? [18:20] last i knew nvidia sucked with linux :( [18:21] nvidia is great on linux [18:21] like it can't boost the clock rates etc. [18:21] well [18:21] no fan control [18:21] oh i only want to use open source drivers heh [18:21] my linux box has radeon 7750 [18:21] which is sort of ok [18:22] it was the best fanless card could get [18:22] there may be a better one now though [18:22] and on windows 980 can ramp the fan down at low load? [18:22] yeah thats a common feature [18:22] i mean off heh [18:22] yeh my r9 290 is pretty quiet at low load [18:23] actually it's pretty quiet all the time really [18:23] surprising given how power hungry it is [18:23] hrm GPU-Z can't read the sensors on this thing for fan speed [18:23] my fan speed is 20% [18:24] but gpu is only 36c [18:24] i wish it could spin slower :/ [18:24] 57 C [18:24] that'll be fanless then [18:24] it probably isn't doing the fan at all atm [18:24] yeah hold on lemme increase the load [18:25] my core clock / memory clock are going up/down csontstaly [18:25] like 20 times/second [18:25] i wonder if that's good for it :/ [18:25] mercutio: you were right [18:26] that is somewhat impressive [18:26] that's about how hot my 7750 runs [18:26] oh it's up to 63c atm [18:26] linux has weak power gating support [18:27] i really do thing for most desktop linux users intel hd is the way to go :) [18:29] so is it good for the video card to constantly bounce between 150 and 1300 mhz [18:29] for memory speed [18:29] not sure how that is an issue [18:29] its not constantly jumping [18:29] unstable load on power supply [18:29] it's constantly jumping for me [18:30] like more than 10x a second [18:30] o_O [18:30] and the power demand is jumping too [18:30] my card is idling at 202.5 Mhz memory clock [18:31] https://weallsee.net/r9-290.png [18:34] that sounds like a bad driver [18:35] it's normal amd driver :/ [18:38] mercutio: your load is also spiking it seems [18:38] yeah probably chrome [18:38] hah [18:39] closing chrome fixed the load issue, but it's still bouncing [18:39] I have GPU acceleration disabled in Chrome and FIrefox because its buggy in both [18:40] weird power draw is more constant now even with memory clock all over the place. [19:21] staticsafe: yeah, hw acceleration is horrible in chrome [20:52] chrome isn't a very good web browser [20:53] but none of them are :)