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[06:28] <RandalSchwartz> I guess my host server upgrade went ok.  Now to finish my guest server upgrade. :)
[06:34] <mercutio> yip
[07:11] <brycec> Weird. That same VPS on kvr18 that was dead (kvm process died) yesterday was kernel panicked this morning.
[07:12] * brycec grumbles
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[07:28] <grody> hmm.. linux & HP printers... how the hell can i get this thing to join my wifi w/o going into windows...
[07:28] <grody> i rather not boot into windows just to USB in and do it... surely there is another way... (cant do crap from it's 3in display)
[07:30] <grody> oh wow.. feel free to use me as a punching bag
[07:30] <grody> hplip-setup can do it
[07:32] <mnathani_> brycec: are you suggesting the kvr18 host has some issue?
[07:33] <brycec> Maybe? I mean, not really but I don't have enough information. It's just weird.
[07:34] <brycec> If the kvm process hadn't died completely the other day, I wouldn't even be looking at the host :p
[07:35] <mnathani_> and you know the process had died as VNC was not accepting connections?
[07:36] <brycec> And because all I had to do was click "boot"
[07:51] <mnathani_> Is there a mailing list similar to NANOG that focuses on System Adminstration ?
[08:54] <grody> ugh i hate firefox - why do they think they are being helpful disabling IPv6 DNS records, thus forcing IPv4 usage
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[09:16] <mnathani_> happy eyeballs maybe?
[09:22] <staticsafe> happy eyeballs
[09:22] <staticsafe> if your IPv6 is not working or is slow it will fast fallback to v4
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[09:45] <grody> indeed
[09:46] <grody> some tests indicate it in seconds (<2) - which is enough to let me know something is amiss
[09:46] <grody> innernets @ home is usually lightning fast, any delay usually indicates a b0rk
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[09:52] <grody> http://ipv6-test.com/  says < 1s
[09:52] <grody> dead AAAA record with valid A record, just over a second for browser (Chromium) to fall back to 4
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[10:11] <sorressean> Is there anyone besides up_the_irons  that can do anything with servers? I issued a shutdown to the wrong server and I can't get in through IPMI. there's a ton of stuff running on that box, need it up asap. was trying to see if someone would power it on.
[10:11] <brycec> Can't reach its IPMI? That sounds like a major failure (or user error)
[10:12] <brycec> sorressean: What's the issue with IPMI?
[10:12] <sorressean> brycec:  user error. I'm not sure if I'm mistyping the pass, but I can't log into the VPN.
[10:13] <brycec> sorressean: Mind if I PM you?
[10:14] <sorressean> brycec:  go for it
[10:24] <brycec> And it's resolved. :)
[10:25] <brycec> Oh Supermicro, you make no sense! IPMI firmware 1.42 "firmware build time" is 2014. Version 1.64 is 2012.
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[10:29] <sorressean> sweet. everything back to normal. thanks again. I was trying to show some work for my job and rebooted the wrong server. :o
[10:30] <sorressean> well, shutdown. so it was slightly scary. Don't mind me... I just shut down my box, come back later!
[10:30] <brycec> lol
[10:30] <brycec> We've all kicked the wrong box ;)
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[11:39] <ant> molly-guard ftw
[11:40] <brycec> @google molly-guard
[11:40] <BryceBot> 609,000 total results returned for 'molly-guard', here's 3
[11:40] <BryceBot> Big red button - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_red_button) Contents. [hide]. 1 Usages; 2 Symbolism. 2.1 Contemporary Definition. 3  Computing and industrial; 4 Molly-guard; 5 See also; 6 References ...
[11:40] <BryceBot> molly-guard - Wiktionary (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/molly-guard) molly-guard ... From Molly (“female given name”) + guard. ... 4341 mainframe  after a programmer's toddler daughter (named Molly) tripped it twice in one day.
[11:40] <BryceBot> Debian -- Details of package molly-guard in sid (https://packages.debian.org/sid/molly-guard) protects machines from accidental shutdowns/reboots.
[11:41] <brycec> lol, a molly-guard over top a keyboard sounds highly ineffective.
[11:42] <brycec> the package looks interesting though.
[11:46] <sorressean> anyone installed php56 on freebsd? I'm struggling to find the APC package (pecl-apc is only for php55 not php56).
[11:50] <brycec> I have.
[11:50] <brycec> but I don't bother with APC
[11:52] <brycec> What about pecl-APCu?
[12:05] <grody> proof simple confuses me: i was able to build beklin sources for a router for a chump (albeit it was horrid and didn't Just Work(tm) and needed all kinds of fu's) - however, i can not for the ♥ of me get a 232mb file from laptop 1 to laptop 2 over the wifi - i just had to pendrive transfer the bloody file
[12:06] <grody> and wc :D
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[14:33] <mercutio> grody: some kind of bug with scp?
[14:34] <mercutio> brycec: is kvr18 in the current batch of upgrades?
[14:35] <mercutio> ie did you get an email
[14:35] <brycec> mercutio: Thursday
[14:35] <mercutio> cool.
[14:35] <brycec> I wish my coworkers would stop calling this 'arpanetworks'
[14:36] <mercutio> heh
[14:36] <brycec> Date: 06/12/2015    Maintenance Window: 01:00AM - 02:30AM PDT (08:00 - 09:30 UTC)   
[14:36] <brycec> So Friday morning technically
[14:36] <mercutio> yeh.
[14:36] <mercutio> yeh i figured
[14:36] <mercutio> it's friday evening for me :/
[14:36] <brycec> If I'm smart, I'll remember to migrate the load off that VPS
[14:37] <brycec> I wonder if there's more downtime if I copy that VPS over to another, or just live with the reboot?
[14:37] <mercutio> there is around 45 to 60 minutes downtime
[14:37] <brycec> Yeah that's what the email said
[14:38] <mercutio> i'd just live with the reboot myself
[14:38] <mercutio> that said
[14:38] <mercutio> i don't know why your vps woudl be crashing
[14:39] <brycec> Yeah that's annoying too. It's usually okay...
[14:40] <brycec> But there have been some externally-triggerable bugs with KVM in the past. Who knows.
[14:40] <brycec> I think I could have a hot-spare ready to take over the VPS load with minimal downtime (just the time to rsync and transfer IP's)
[14:57] <mercutio> sweet
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[15:25] <grody> mercutio, no idea... i just assumed it was a "Gag me with a spoon" day
[15:25] <grody> it would talk to internet, but not locally
[15:26] <mercutio> seems strange
[15:26] <mercutio> is that the day you were like screw it i'm going to pub
[15:26] <mercutio> i seem to recall you saying something like that
[15:26] <grody> lol yea
[15:27] <grody> but it was today too.. normally it's saturdays that hit me with daily wtfs
[15:28] <mercutio> heh
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[16:09] <grody> i need to start coding again
[16:10] <brycec> @py print "Hello, world!"
[16:10] <BryceBot> Hello, world!
[16:10] <brycec> There, all done coding for the day.
[16:10] <grody> amount of bad code i've seen lately im just horrified and i cant diss them for being bad coders when they can do something i cant
[16:10] <grody> lol
[16:10] <grody> python is script, not code :P
[16:10] * grody hides
[16:11] <grody> it's the whole, book in one hand, laptop on lap and trying to flick between them that puts me off
[16:12] <brycec> @go package main; import "fmt"; func main() { fmt.Println("Hello, world!") }
[16:12] <BryceBot> Hello, world!\n
[16:12] <brycec> That better, grody ? :P
[16:12] <grody> i've snipped and cut enough code to understand the basics, can build simple arrays and functions in C++, but nothing fancy
[16:12] <grody> haha
[16:12] <brycec> Go *is* a compiled language ;P
[16:13] <grody> can't python be binary built, or is that ruby?
[16:13] <brycec> Most scripting languages can sorta. Python gets compiled to byte-code at runtime, little .py[co] files
[16:13] <grody> ahh
[16:13] <grody> it's the whitesspaces i hate in python
[16:14] <brycec> @py print " "*40 + "Was that enough whitespace?"
[16:14] <BryceBot>                                         Was that enough whitespace?
[17:04] <mercutio> interpreting vs compiling code doesn't really change that you're writing code
[17:04] <mercutio> grody: c has white space too
[17:05] <mercutio> perl code heavy with regexp's seems like it has no white space
[17:05] <mercutio> i kind of don't like code to be condensed too much
[17:40] <grody> C & C++ are just perfect for me
[17:40] <grody> bash scripting is something i enjoy too
[17:41] <grody> but absolutely suck at regexp
[17:41] <grody> to be honest, even though i can spend days tinkering getting somethig to work the way i want.. i dont get why i never got into programming
[17:42] <grody> never had fancy computers at school only acorns and bbc micros with at best an econet to play with
[17:42] <grody> but making small BASIC apps to run talking pendown a rude statement halfway though registration always got a laugh
[17:44] <grody> do ♥ networking though
[17:45] <grody> figured out that issue... the wifi had ap isolation on
[17:45] <grody> total plebbkac
[18:11] <mercutio> i like c
[18:11] <mercutio> i don't really do c++
[18:12] <mercutio> i hate complicated regexp, it always means figuring out what it's doing bit by bit
[18:12] <mercutio> it's often worse reading than writing
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[20:45] <mkb> so when you get new IP space at ARP you get to see the previous customer's PTR records...
[20:45] <brycec> At least until up_the_irons fixes it, yep
[20:46] <mkb> I managed to convince a company I'm part of to use ARP so I get to do all this again
[20:46] <brycec> I'm a little bummed that I didn't gain any mystery PTR's when I grew to a /28 here
[20:46] <brycec> Nice, congrats to you and ARP
[20:49] <mkb> which also means I get to use OpenBSD :)
[20:49] <brycec> \o/
[20:50] <brycec> Subnet Usage: Used: 11 | Free: ~184·10^17 (100%)
[20:50] <brycec> fun with /64 subnetting :D
[20:50] <mkb> don't know how long this'll last. the CEO is pushing Amazon but I didn't think we needed that complexity yet
[20:50] <mkb> heh
[20:51] <brycec> Amazon tends to make a terrible VPS provider because EC2 isn't a VPS, it's a cog in a machine. I hope your CEO understands that and isn't just riding the hype and buzz :/
[20:53] <mkb> He doesn't. Fortunately he knows that so he'll defer to my decision. I know that's rarer than it should be
[20:54] <brycec> That's rarer than a CEO actually know that stuff.
[20:54] <brycec> *knowing
[20:54] * brycec english good.
[21:03] <mercutio> arp needs to increase prices closer to amazon to compete more directly with people who wnat touse amazon like a vps
[21:03] <mercutio> because if it's more expensive it must be better
[21:04] <mercutio> well have a second tier i mean
[21:04] <mercutio> mkb yay for openbsd
[21:15] <brycec> I thought that was the "Only schmucks pay the extra $10 on dedicated machines" tier?
[21:18] <mercutio> heh.
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