[08:39] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [08:41] *** mjp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [08:41] *** mjp___ has joined #arpnetworks [08:45] *** NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks [10:51] Anyone else lose connectivity to kvr19 for a bit? [10:51] does arp use qemu? [10:51] and if so, are we affected by Venom? [10:52] Yes and yes [10:52] I presume the guys in charge are on it? [10:52] I just got a notice from Elastichosts that I have to stop/start my box [10:53] Yes up_the_irons is aware and said he'll be patching and rebooting VMs [10:53] cool [10:58] ok... one box down. :) [10:58] RandalSchwartz: Oh is up_the_irons already rebooting VM's? [10:59] No... this was at elastichosts [11:00] I wonder what digitalocean uses [12:54] they released an advisory about it [12:54] some of their boxes weren't affected, the ones that were are being patched or something to that effect [12:55] https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/update-on-CVE-2015-3456/ [13:33] Ahh, thanks [15:35] *** jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:43] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [15:45] there's actually no known exploit for this yet [16:17] true [16:32] I wonder if the wosign "free" certs can be cracked by the chinese government [16:45] as long as your dont share your private key :) [17:18] Ahh... right. you don't give them everything to be you. [17:18] but I wonder if the cert chain might allow them to fake secure.example.com on the fly [17:19] like some deep-inspection hotspots I've been on [17:19] That's what she said!! [17:51] your browser either trusts the CA or it doesnt, up to you [17:53] i'm sure all nations have some sort of backdoor/frontdoor into a root CA up their sleeves but would not use them much as it wouldnt be easily detectable [17:53] *would [18:14] well .. this particular hotspot clearly intercepts https because all my mac apps bitch wildly [18:14] so I just fire up openvpn, and all done. :) [18:15] "deep inspect *this*, guys" [18:15] That's what she said!! [18:35] curious, looking over the messy arrangement of my virtual desktops and find a shell logged into my ARP.. that was initiated 16 days ago [18:36] i did wonder where that other user was, can get really annoying rebuilding a host [18:36] really should use tmux more [18:37] tmux rocks [18:37] will never return to screen [18:37] swore by screen [18:37] i only used to use screen because -U allowed UTF over a freebsd terminal.. but tmux seems to do it out of the box now [18:37] now swear at screen [18:38] haha i always swore at screen :) [18:38] buit i still used it [18:38] yeah I have Terminal.app -> ssh -> tmux -> emacs -> shell-mode [18:38] with a full utf-8 path [18:38] how do you verify utf? [18:39] ♥ [18:39] what do you see? [18:39] that utf is working [18:39] :) [18:39] ☺︎ [18:39] like is there some easy program to show utf characters. [18:39] I see you have a heart on [18:40] in the mac, it's a "special characters... " usually under edit. [18:40] tbh i haven't really tested other than via irssi and my stupid alias sets [18:40] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt [18:40] but some ncurses stuff uses utf and it goes all blocky [18:40] hmm proverbs in the amharic language arne't showing for me [18:40] they're not showing in chrome either [18:42] ???????????????????????? [18:42] haha [18:42] ok this isn't working :) [18:42] ff seems to work, but i am using ff on linsux [18:43] will check the fbsd... [18:43] that seems to work too [18:43] ahh, but i see more dominoes on the fbsd [18:44] hmm it's cos LANG wasn't set [18:45] the new syscons on freebsd is meant to support utf out of the box too, it does work for the most part [18:45] it also lets me run the cli at native resolutions too, which is always nice [18:46] cons25 is a total no go without screen -U [18:47] hah.. nice.. ♥ those currency conversions [18:47] even with foreign currency fee, my ARP only cost me 13.04 last month :D [18:47] cheaper (by quite a bit in fact) than any EU provider for same specs (and no bs as standard) [18:48] even when i was reselling, i was being wholsaled at 13.99 [18:50] what i ♥ most is the fact i dont have to constanstly check up on my ARP [18:50] on which note, i need a beer, bath & bed [19:01] a beer bath? [19:19] i'd hop into one! [19:20] think i need to get a new boiler, this one is seriously paking the tiss [19:33] boiler? [19:33] i think it's some english thing [19:33] maybe coal burner? [19:33] or hot water tank? [19:33] oh [19:33] maybe :) [19:33] yea, that's what i was thinking (hot water tank) [19:34] i was thinking fire of some kind :) [19:34] well.. hot water tanks have fire [19:34] not normally :) [19:34] it's usually electric [19:34] at least here [19:34] gas is pretty common in the US [19:34] I prefer gas [19:34] natural gas [19:34] yea, same here [19:34] doesn't gas cause explosions? [19:34] it can [19:34] i thought gas was bad because of the hurricances in the US? [19:34] and electrical stuff can catch fire [19:34] pick your poison [19:35] hurricanes even [19:35] realize that there's a whole lot of US not anywhere near hurricane territory [19:35] no hurricanes outside south and east [19:35] oh right [19:35] they do cover a lot of distance [19:35] but the size is quite big compared to what i'm used to :) [19:35] yea, my state is approximately the same land area as new zealand [19:35] that's small [19:36] california is way bigger than new zealand [19:36] it sure is [19:36] NM is the 5th largest in the US [19:36] yeah - more of all of new england [19:36] california is bigger than middle earth [19:36] we've been getting little tornados here recently [19:37] tornadoes [19:37] california is less than twice the size of new zealnd [19:37] wow [19:37] that surprised me :) [19:38] hmm and new zealand is bigger than florida [19:38] which is one of the places that doesn't have gas [19:38] so how does gas go in an earthquake? [19:39] oh there's special cut off valves apparently [19:39] hot water tank [19:39] grody: is it gas, or coal, or electric? [19:39] usually a gas boiler (inline heater), which im going to have installed [19:39] electric atm [19:40] it plays havock on the bill too, gas one would be much cheaper [19:40] FL is weird [19:40] wow, so russia apparently pipes hot water around the country [19:40] that's very russian [19:40] hahah [19:40] and you can't control the temperature [19:40] sounds odd, isn't it mostly cold there?# [19:40] eek [19:40] m0unds: florida seems like the closest match to nz in some ways [19:41] because it's got water on both sides of the state [19:41] i think some of california does too? [19:41] buut not neearly as much of it [19:41] umm, baha i guess [19:41] baja [19:41] baha. lol [19:41] more similar levels of wetness etc [20:14] baja isn't California though, that's part of Mexico. [20:14] (Sheesh does nobody learn their Mexican states? >.>) [20:14] <.< [20:14] uh... not really [20:14] upper baja was in fact california [20:15] lower baja is the peninsula [20:15] the mexicans have good claim all the way up to san jose area [20:16] No part of California has a major body of water on anywhere but the western border. [20:16] * brycec is looking a map and everything [20:16] that's also true [20:16] Cali stops at Tijuana. The whole baja is Mexico. [20:16] no [20:16] baja norte extends to san jose [20:17] You and I have different definitions of baja apparently [20:17] I'm going based on the historical truths, before the mexicans were forced out [20:17] I'm going with *current* geographical boundaries. [20:17] yeah - after we forced them [20:18] RandalSchwartz: http://www.map-of-mexico.co.uk/map-of-bajacalifornianorte.htm shows Baja Norte going only as far as Tijuana [20:18] sure, that's what the revisionists will say [20:18] notice the .uk there [20:18] give me a url with .mx :) [20:19] RandalSchwartz: http://cachanilla69.blogspot.mx/2013/02/mexico-breve-historia-de-la-division_3.html [20:24] heh... in spanish [20:24] now I have to translate. :) [20:25] You live in California and you don't speak Spanish? Now that's really weird :P [20:25] (You did ask for a .mx) [20:25] I do not live in california [20:25] I live in Oregon [20:25] oh my bad then [20:25] s/California/the USA [20:25] You live in the USA and you don't speak Spanish? Now that's really weird :P [20:25] and I'm slowly learning spanish [20:29] but not fast enough [20:32] * RandalSchwartz relocates [21:12] upgrading freebsd 8.4 to 9.3 for $client [21:18] hm...i need to upgrade too [21:19] yeah 8.4 is EOLed next month [21:19] thankfully my client let me experiment with him [21:20] so then I can take mine forward sometime in the past next weeks [21:20] if tonight his main machine goes 8.4 to 9.3, I'll be confident of taking mine foward. [21:54] wooo... got pings after my reboot to the 9.3 kernel [21:56] I may be done ahead of schedule :) [21:59] twss [21:59] Okay! twss! 'I may be done ahead of schedule :)' [22:05] yeah, everything just worked [22:06] just telling up_the_irons that he is not needed tonight [22:45] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:10] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks