ok could be worse :) The OpenBSD team uses Comic Sans for all of their slides and as many of their Web sites as possible. It's their way of being ... funny? heh. i've seen it before but i didn't realise it was to be funny i used to think it was weird years and years back but now it's so accepted that it's not weird does anyone else find the openbsd slides always load insanely slowly? like when there was those presentations with slides, it must be the slowest slide showing i've seen http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/mgp00001.html those kinds of ones, except it's fast now go figure http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/mgp00003.html ahh this one is slow oh it's 1.5 mb Ha, yeah. Gotta get all the graphics! wooo brycec: what did I do? oh dfly mercutio: yeah - i really like it it didn't like my machine though mercutio: dragonfly is nice m0unds: are you using it in any normal capacity these days? i used it for 8 mos or so last year and as a server os, not desktop (i don't use linux or bsd as a desktop) are you doing windows desktop? i tried to use os x as a desktop a while back (on a g4) it required a bit of screwing around, but seemed a lot easier than windows. yes, windows osx is a pain in the ass on hackintosh stuff That's what she said!! BryceBot: no Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'osx is a pain in the ass on hackintosh stuff' notebook is a mac, so it runs osx the g4 was a mac mini i did try hackintosh after that apple dropped powerpc really quickly. this was years ago - but even then it was a struuggle. it's kind of like core2duos getting dropped now so i think i've found a good cheap affordable 5tb hard-drive, but shipping costs are huge :( it's only $10 more expensive than seagate http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Desktop-External-HDWC250XK3J1/dp/B00J5EZNO0 Amazon: "Toshiba 5TB Canvio Desktop External Hard Drive (HDWC250XK3J1)" you can remove the hard-disk.. right, i know what a g4 was - i was saying i use windows because trying to hack osx to run on "unsupported" hardware sucks i have a g4 powerbook somewhere i didn't find it too bad. video performance kind of sucked. but i think that's os x in general steam started really slow, but it's like that on linux too in my case, i had to use a flash drive to boot it so it wasn't worth my time i was using uefi i was too and it didn't work at all, and using legacy worked w/a flash drive weird and that was without add-in graphics or anything else, just booting using onboard gpu and whatnot at any rate, not worth my time yeah i understand. if i was to get someone else to do hackintosh that wasn't pretty geeky i would recommend against it without blinking yea, it's like trying to use linux on a desktop in the 90s nothx ihad to screw around with pci id's for drivers and so on which isn't that complicated when you know what it's about yep, had to do that to even get the onboard gpu to function correctly radeon wouldn't work at all (7970) yeh openbsd was acutally easier than linux for a while there my radeon worked 5750 yea, mine was "supposed" to work and that's all the documentation that existed: "should work" yeah wee what's up?