Good morning nerds evening gdi i can't find my pants pants are overrated I concur That is why I took them off yesterday without second thought and forgot where I placed them Fortunately, my wife has located them Crisis avoided does anyonw know if it's possible to get grub to output to both serial and normal console ? I have no experience there mercutio: Yes. But not at the same time. You typically get a "press any key to activate" message on both consoles and whichever one hits a key first is used this seems to imply that you could have both at the same time (terminal_output --append ...): https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/terminal_005foutput.html#terminal_005foutput same for "terminal_input" plett: lame dne: hmm will it take input from any? ist hat grub2? yup I think so mercutio: I've never needed to control a boot from both physical console and serial console at the same time. I'm always either sat in front of one or the other, not both plett: i just thought it'd be a nice default It is. I have puppet set it up on all our physical machines The stuff that I have augeus do via puppet is this on a CentOS/RHEL box: changes => [ "setm title/kernel/ console $console", "rm splashimage", "rm terminal", "rm serial", "ins serial after timeout", "ins terminal after serial", "set serial/unit 0", "set serial/speed 9600", "set serial/word 8", "set terminal/timeout 5", "clear terminal/serial", "clear terminal/console", ], Oops, that was longer than I thought it would be, sorry for spam Under Debian-oids it is much easier, you can set an option in /etc/default/grub and it Just Works hmm And if you still have to support RHEL/CentOS 5, the order in which you configure consoles in grub is critical. That's why that augeus config is so specific and long-winded i'm just doing work on arp templates for vm's, and thouught it'd be convenient if people could get a serial console at grub by default but i don't want it to be more complicated for people who don't want to use serial console pressing a key seems to be a little less transparent :( Hello Is there a free mail client that I can get so I do not get errors(Cannot open URL) when I click on mail address on a website http://tinypic.com/r/2igfw47/8 ... http://www.claws-mail.org/ how much difference in cpu power would I get going from say : Intel Xeon E5-2620 V2 to Intel Xeon E5-2690 V2 about 40%? i'm just throwing out random numbers. if you hvae multithreaded workloads then it's probably more improvement with 2 cpus for multithreaded workloads you can get some idea from passmark http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2620+v2+%40+2.10GHz http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2690+v2+%40+3.00GHz way more difference then i guessed it's close to twice as fast it's 10 core instead of 6 core, and 50% faster clock rate. 10 cores seems like a strang enumber haha you should see the price diff though e5-2620v2 $382.81, e5-2690v2 $226.04+4.99 shipping err 2226 >>> (382.01)/(2226.04+5) 0.17122507888697647 17.12% of the cost