[00:34] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [01:17] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [01:22] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [02:17] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [02:22] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:55] i still use USB drives to transfer large quantities of data [02:56] What about station wagons full of USB drives? [02:56] fastest link i have is 200mbps.. and thats just two switches being trunked [02:56] Think of the bandwidth... [02:56] usb 3.1 is coming out [02:59] i say i dont transfer lots of data over my lan, media server and general whoringbox has sent 1.9TB and received 960GB in 30 days [02:59] heh [02:59] time for gige :/ [02:59] but then again that thing gets hit up like a bint [03:00] ya it has the card, but im such a cheap ass i cant find a decent gige switch for under £100 [03:00] i mean, there are some under that price, but they suck [03:01] even my archaid allied telesyn commtrend puts some of them to shame (for features) [03:01] archaic* [03:02] on a plus note, i found why my lappie goes nuts booting uefi aware *nix - any resolutions other than gfxmode text or 1024x768 dont work, and most are using 640x480 :/ [03:03] woohoo, done with the morning workout and getting ready routine in time to watch some Seinfeld! [03:03] Got up a 0345 to get a head start [03:03] ooh that reminds me, nearly gym-o-clock [03:03] I was getting my sweat on at 0400 [03:03] I love doing it first thing in the morning to get it out of the way [03:04] heheh, i normally hit my gym at 2am [03:04] plus nobody aboutt [03:04] Although, I'm examining a vessel today, and my shoulders feel like jelly atm [03:04] true that [03:04] Right now I'm trying Sean T's T25 program [03:04] I had a lot of success with P90X a few years ago, so I want to see what T25 is all about [03:04] If I don't get what I want, I'll go back to being a 4AM gym rat [03:05] No time for Seinfeld if I do that, though! :( [03:05] i dont really do much else than a light cardio and general weights [03:06] i dunno why phlux woudl want to get up so early [03:06] not aiming to do much other than keep a breath and minimmize the old ale belly [03:06] grody: aye, I have to stay in some sort of shape for my job. Weigh-ins and PT tests and whatnot [03:06] ooh joy [03:06] mercutio, i hate daytime hours - i always try and get work that is at night [03:07] why i ♥ americans so much [03:07] 4am is best time of the day imo [03:07] I tried the "just focus on cardio" bit, but I got to a point where I was smoking the mile and a half, but struggling on pullups and pushups [03:08] Granted, I'm only required to do 1 pullup, but you look like a little manchild when all of the females in your group are busting out 10 and you only manage 1 haha [03:08] That's grounds for endless ridicule in the .mil [03:08] That's what she said!! [03:09] lol [03:09] there is this one chick who works out at 1am, not a lot to look at - but damn can she benchpress and run [03:10] not a muscley type either, quite petite.. not someone to expect to benchpress 100kg w/o breaking a sweat [03:10] i didn't know wether to cry or find another time to work out when i saw it [03:12] lol [03:13] I generally try not to compare myself to others, but I can't help it if I'm being completely showed up by a 120lb girl [03:13] heh [03:13] mercutio: Do you ever sleep?! [03:13] yeh i sleep [03:13] i'm in nz, so diff timezone :/ [03:14] ooooooooooh [03:14] That explains it then [03:14] I thought you were American [03:14] yeah if i was american i would be up late a lot :) [03:15] I used to be a night crawler [03:15] 4 hours of sleep before work [03:15] but then we had a kid [03:15] I sleep whenever the hell I can in the afternoons [03:15] If I could sleep past 4AM, I would [03:16] but I have to keep this body for up_the_irons [03:16] else he'll ban me from #arpnetworks [03:17] I hope he doesn't have beep highlights [03:17] That's what she said!! [03:17] Because it's like 2AM his time [03:17] heh, he might be up [03:17] but it's like 3 am now [03:17] they had daylight saving shift. [03:18] hmm [03:18] I thought he was 3 hours behind me [03:18] I must've been mistaken [03:18] Never been out to the west coast [03:18] they were 3 hours ahead of me [03:19] I'm a gulf guy [03:19] but now they're four. [03:19] cos of daylight savings. [03:19] i dunno if it started or stopped [03:19] which is fucking stupid btw [03:19] I hate the time change shit [03:19] yeah it's annoying [03:19] i will change to standard time soon i think [03:20] yeah i'm changing "back" to standard time 5th april [03:20] Only Americans would think that you can take one foot from the top of a blanket, attach it to the bottom, and think they have a longer blanket. [03:20] Oh, and apparently New Zealand too [03:21] yeah we have that annoying thing too [03:21] i start getting up earlier in winter [03:21] regardless [03:21] as i always start getting up later in winter [03:21] so i try to counterbalance ahead of time :) [03:21] aye [03:22] it's not so bad in this city [03:22] where i used to live it would be colder in mornings y more [03:22] by [03:23] What sucks is I live about an hour from the city where I work [03:23] and I'm off of this huge lake up here [03:23] is that on peak of off peak hour? [03:23] or [03:23] When I go outside at my house, it's 10 degrees F colder than in the city [03:24] Eh, takes me about 40 min off peak [03:24] here higher places tend to be warmer [03:24] but I have to plan to be 10F warmer in the city [03:24] shade makes a huge diff to temp [03:25] I think the issue here is I'm north of the lake [03:25] So all of the wind coming off of the water hits us over here [03:25] i just always plan to be cold tbh [03:25] Whereas my base is west of the river [03:25] it's esay to take off clothes [03:25] it's hard to put more on if you don't have the [03:25] YES [03:25] and with jackets etc you can have them open [03:25] Thank you [03:25] My wife can not seem to grasp that concept [03:26] heh sometimes you see a hot day here when it's been cold [03:26] and all the girls walk around hardly dressed [03:26] then afternoon comes and of course it's much colder :/ [03:26] lol [03:26] we went to downtown New Orleans about a month ago, and it was around 75 when we left [03:26] She asked why I was bringing a jacket [03:27] Because I *knew* it was going to get cold that evening [03:27] She didn't believe me and froze [03:27] * phlux shrugs [03:27] heh [03:27] no foresight! [03:27] I carried around a jacket for an hour, then got to wear it. [03:27] i used to not wear jackets when it was like 7c [03:28] so that's like 45f [03:28] but iw as younger :/] [03:28] screw that [03:28] that's bone chilling to me! [03:28] it was pretty typcial warm winter evening wehre i used to live [03:28] it's a common minimum here now i think [03:28] in winter [03:29] it is generally pretty warm here [03:30] holy shit [03:30] That's what she said!! [03:30] I just learned something from Seinfeld [03:30] Plato invented the PLATOnic relationship [03:30] mind blown [03:33] I have got to go get an external drive this weekend [04:07] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [04:12] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [04:19] anyone have an nginx config for running smokeping they can share? [04:25] phlux, to store terrible puns like that on? :p [05:53] mnathani_: I have, but maybe it's slightly unconventional - reverse proxy to starman that runs smokeping as a PSGI app [05:55] https://gist.github.com/dne/4d261fe4f9533a1f3701 [05:55] Gist: "Nginx config for SmokePing (reverse proxy to Starman)" [05:55] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [06:00] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [07:00] these blips on kvr03 are driving me a little nuts, sometimes long enough to trigger monitoring alerts, sometimes long enough to just disconnect any open sessions i have [07:04] *** YesThatTom has joined #arpnetworks [07:44] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [07:49] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [09:02] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [09:33] mnathani_: http://sprunge.us/BVIh mine too if you're interested. [09:43] dne: thanks [09:43] brycec: thanks [09:59] brycec: what OS is your smokeping running on? [10:00] Debian Wheezy [10:00] (and my slaves are various others, but that's not relevant) [10:00] I am attempting to get it working on centos 6 [10:00] I don't imagine much difference [10:00] I don't actually have a smokeping.cgi [10:01] nginx v 1.6.2 [10:01] Did you install smokeping from source or a package? [10:01] from source [10:01] nginx-1.0.15-11 [10:01] phlux: yes, but Plato's platonic relationships were rather different from today's. [10:03] I have /opt/smokeping/bin/smokeping_cgi [10:04] I installed from package. Also I may have given you the wrong spawn-cgi, one sec... [10:04] up_the_irons: is something up w/kvr03? packet loss has been occurring pretty regularly for a few days now [10:06] (Well slightly different, but not appreciably different) [10:15] not worth even men [10:17] ha. wrong chat window (couldn't tell because packet loss) [10:18] the other part of it went in the right window, haha [10:20] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: argh) [10:27] *** sarkis_ has joined #arpnetworks [10:29] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [10:33] *** m0unds_ has joined #arpnetworks [11:11] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [11:21] *** sarkis_ is now known as sarkis [13:31] brycec: did your smokeping package configure itself for use with nginx? [13:32] centos 6 has a package, but configures itself to use apache [13:32] Negative, I hand-configured it. but the cgi was in place [13:32] mnathani_: centos makes smokeping harder [13:33] (and there's just the one package on Debian, it's not broken into pieces) [13:33] *** YesThatTom has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [13:33] but anywy it's normal to use fastcgi ratehr than cgi [13:33] which is why it's .cgi [13:34] Running smokeping as bare CGI was sloooooooow [13:34] because it has a really high startup overhead :/ [13:34] brycec: it is right [13:34] brycec: you tyhink for light use it shouldn't matter [13:34] but i think it dns lookups every host or something [13:35] The poller does, yes [13:35] it adds a huge chunk of overhead [13:42] * grody pets munin [13:42] not as good as smokeping for latency etc. [13:42] but does a relatively good job [13:43] modular too, so easy adding graphs for just about anything that outputs daya [13:43] I run munin too. But it's a different tool for a different job :p [13:43] munin auto restarts services that go down right? [13:43] i have munin doing ICMP/TCP timing/graphing, but yea, nowhere near as featureful as smokeping [13:43] Smokeping really shines when you have multiple slaves (on different networks/connections) monitoring hosts, as you can then see what's affected [13:44] mnathani_: that's monit [13:44] assuming you have monit configured to that :P [13:45] munin is bloated too isn't it? [13:45] That's what she said!! [13:45] i wouldn't say it was overkill, sure isn't a hog [13:45] it never even makes a dent in my resources [13:46] munin-node is pretty dang lightweight [13:46] but the graphing and alerting can be a hog [13:46] (which is why smart people use the cgi graphing) [13:46] cool [13:47] the problem with smokeping is if you have dns lookups and internet failure you get blanks because it can't complete quick enough [13:47] i haven't thought of any nice solution to it yet - fping also does the dns lookups - [13:47] So don't use DNS lookups :P [13:47] Just feed it IP's [13:47] brycec: that's what i was doing. [13:47] but for things like google it's better to use names. [13:47] Unless you're tracking something that regularly changes IP's, there's no reason [13:48] it'd be ok having stale ip's.. [13:48] mercutio: I'd argue that you want to ping a fixed point. Using name, Google could start rerouting traffic to a different DC, over different transit, etc and it's not useful. [13:48] brycec: but google do that for normal traffic [14:21] the joys of CDNs [15:36] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:36] *** sarkis has joined #arpnetworks [16:59] *** sarkis has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1) [17:32] mercutio: https://nzrs.net.nz/content/dnssec-validation-spark-nz [17:33] yeah i saw they were implementing that [17:33] i wonder if they're using unbound. [17:33] that company used to refuse to use open source software [17:34] they were using some weird commercial version of bind before i think [17:34] they also took a long long time to split from combined recursive/authorative dns, and had problems taking old domains out of their dns [17:34] so there were common problems with dns being wrong on them, but no-one else. [17:35] * staticsafe nods [17:35] i run unbound at home [17:36] did you read about that on nznog? [17:36] yeah [17:36] they've been talking about a noc contact list for ages on there [17:36] it doesn't seem to be going anywhere [17:36] indeed [17:37] my name is on there but not my phone number, so i don't mind [17:37] i'm paranoid about having phone numbers on the internet [17:37] it's scarier than email addresses. [17:37] my phone number is in my ARIN POC record [17:37] yeh you have to don't you [17:38] since its a single proprietorship yeah [17:38] as long as it goes to a work number that doesn't go directly to me i'm ok with it [17:38] not a corp [17:38] hmm [17:39] yeah i have work phone numbers on my domains :) [17:42] staticsafe: http://open.spotify.com/user/iso50/playlist/4IKS1mfouaWKxHmQMOa67O [17:42] dunno if you use spotify and/or saw that already [17:45] static: did you enable dnssec? [17:50] mercutio: yeah [17:51] almost all of my own domains are signed [17:51] m0unds: yeah i use spotify a lot [17:53] i'm using tinydns without even having tcp enabled :/ [17:53] ew [17:53] i thinking of switching to nsd [17:53] good choice [17:53] but tinydns works well and is easy [17:53] i use BIND [17:53] i've been using it for like 15 years :/ [17:53] actually more like 13 years [17:54] i use unbound for recursive needs and BIND for authoritative [17:54] bind to nsd is meant to be easy [17:58] unless you are dependent on BIND's auto DNSSEC signing magic :) [17:58] That's what she said!! [17:58] no BryceBot [18:12] BryceBot: no [18:12] Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'unless you are dependent on BIND's auto DNSSEC signing magic :)' [18:13] I highly recommend nsd [18:13] It's light, it's simple, it Just Works [18:13] And it's in base