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| acf_ | "However, a critical detail was overlooked in that backbone provider GTT/nLayer was doing the majority of the heavy lifting for CloudFlare." | [00:00] |
| mercutio | (usually you'll hit a peered connection when browsing hosted sites)
yeah but i see ntt :) maybe ntt do flowspec now | [00:00] |
| acf_ | so GTT was integral to the CloudFlare implementation at one point | [00:00] |
| BryceBot | TO THE CLOUD!!! | [00:00] |
| acf_ | that's interesting | [00:00] |
| mercutio | https://njetwork.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/mitigating-ddos-attacks-with-bgp-flow-specification/
The specification was written by guys from Cisco, Juniper, Arbor Networks and NTT America, but only Juniper implements it at the time of writing. so yeah maybe ntt are implementing it now but yeah now they're not, and they're hosting on cloudflare, and they can't handle ddos?? that anti ddos protection crap at the beginning is like soimething to enable when you're under active ddos attack to try and reduce traffic | [00:01] |
| acf_ | that seems like it would be expensive to implement on all of your network's routers
if you're NTT and you have a bunch of customers and you have to deal with all of their firewall rules like rate limiting individual traffic streams? seems like that has to be stateful, for each stream > then rate-limit 1m; | [00:06] |
| mercutio | i have never looked into it tbh | [00:07] |
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| :666 blackhole stops most ddos attacks.
err blackhole community, it is noramlly called 666 as that's the community number standard :) | [00:34] | |
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| grody | my isp has an extremely effective ddos detection
as soon as they see traffic being sent down your line faster than it is connected, they simply sever you (they also have means to filter certain types of dos too) realisticly end users can only hope for that, at least if i get shunted offline i can log into their panels and see why im offline after much playing (and subtle hair loss) - i have found my solution - debian & xen hyper-v is nice n all, quite fast for freebsd guests - but no way of vga passthru on my system by looks just need to get a way for debian to give me an option to go full X and only run the background guests (that need no head), or to choose windows passthru & background guests and leave the host idle for ssh | [14:25] |
| acf_ | the Level3 trunk is acting strange | [14:36] |
| mercutio | grody: have you tired that alternative to vnc
uhh spice | [14:42] |
| grody | have been reading about that | [14:45] |
| mercutio | it's a lot nicer | [14:45] |
| grody | have been using the sdl interface vs vnc | [14:45] |
| mercutio | ahh ok i haven't palyed with that | [14:45] |
| grody | it's faster in general, but if you lose that window, you kill the vm | [14:46] |
| mercutio | spice is fast over lan
i can't remember what it's like over internet | [14:46] |
| grody | ahh i'll be running everything locally | [14:46] |
| mercutio | well it's still worth a shot
by fast i mean web browsing on windows was good from linux :) like scrollign was good even | [14:47] |
| for some reason most remote video still scrolls terribly | [14:52] | |
| RandalSchwartz | I did it! I hacked my first fbsd ports Makefile!
p5-Business-ISBM required a newer ExtUtils::Makemaker, so I added that to my BUILD_DEPENDS RandalSchwartz does a happydance now to submit that patch back upstream | [15:01] |
| mercutio | i had heaps of problems with freebsd ports back when i used freebsd as a desktop :/
it seemed that any given time lots of things were out of sync there was no stable branch? i haven't had any issues recently with much less ports used though but they always seem to change dependencys around for versions mind you that was mostly with things like gnome etc | [15:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | stable what? | [15:05] |
| mercutio | like when doing cvs upgrade on the ports tree | [15:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - it claims it needs perl 5.18, which probably has the required module in core | [15:06] |
| mercutio | you don't have release tagged versions, it just constantly updates. | [15:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | EUMM is one of those "dual-tagged" modules
both a core version, and a version in CPAN I'm still running 5.16, so I had to "upgrade" my EUMM but poudriere always starts with a clean slate this is the first time that has been a problem. :) I built EUMM 7.04, and that's what's installed on my host machine but poudriere used the 5.16 perl stock EUMM, and p5-Business-ISBN hated that | [15:06] |
| mercutio | hmm
i think i have perl 5.20 well on linux i've got no idea what perl has been changing in their new versions | [15:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | perldoc perldelta :) | [15:09] |
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| mercutio | ahh i have 5.20.2
lots of little things? Errno has been upgraded from version 1.20_03 to 1.20_05. that means nothing to me for instance | [15:30] |
| RandalSchwartz | it means nothing to me either. :)
it probably means they fixed some bugs. the perldelta has a lot of insignificant noise. | [15:35] |
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| mercutio | it seems to be mostly language and unicode improvements
err and fixes | [15:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | what does a freebsd ABI look like?
as in, in pkg.conf, ${ABI} ahh... like this: freebsd:8:x86:64 | [16:05] |
| I should name my poudriere jails like that too then
hmm. that doesn't look like anything in uname -a I wonder how you get the ABI I could look at the source of pkg, I guess... since it parses pkg.conf with that var Oh... geez. pkg gets it literally by reading the elf info from /bin/sh pkg query '%o %q' can show you the same ABI string too | [16:11] | |
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| mercutio | that souunds dirty | [16:46] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [16:46] |
| mercutio | but maybe it's so you can have different kernels and userspace | [16:47] |
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| mnathani_ | @weather houston | [17:21] |
| BryceBot | Multiple locations matched your query: Houston, AL (zmw:35572.1.99999), Houston, AK (zmw:99694.1.99999), Houston, AR (zmw:72070.1.99999), Houston, BC, CA (zmw:00000.3.71950), Houston, CO (zmw:80138.3.99999), Houston, DE (zmw:19954.1.99999), Houston, IL (zmw:62286.3.99999), Houston, MN (zmw:55943.1.99999), Houston, MS (zmw:38851.1.99999), Houston, MO (zmw:65483.1.99999), Houston, OH (zmw:45333.1.99999), Houston, PA (zmw:15342.1.99999), Houston, SD | [17:21] |
| mnathani_ | @weather houston, tx | [17:21] |
| BryceBot | Houston, TX: Overcast ☁ 56°F (13°C), Humidity: 46%, Wind: From the NE at 1.0 MPH Gusting to 6.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=29.713865,-95.262833 or re-request this with: @weather -v houston, tx | [17:21] |
| mnathani_ | @weather -v houston, tx | [17:21] |
| BryceBot | Houston, TX: Overcast ☁ 56°F (13°C), Humidity: 46%, Wind: From the NE at 1.0 MPH Gusting to 6.0 MPH, Pressure: 30.36inHg (1028mb) and holding, Dewpoint: 36°F (2°C), Visibility: 10Mi (16km), UV index: 0, Sunrise 06:40, Sunset: 18:24, Lunar phase: Waning gibbous
Saturday: Overcast 62°F/50°F (16°C/10°C) | Sunday: Rain 56°F/51°F (13°C/11°C) | Monday: Rain 59°F/57°F (15°C/14°C) | Tuesday: Rain 62°F/52°F (17°C/11°C) The average high for this date is 71°F (22°C), and the record of 90°F (32°C) was set in 1911. The average low is 51°F (11°C), and the record of 28°F (-2°C) was set in 1989 | [17:21] |
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| phlux | @weather -v 70458 | [18:10] |
| BryceBot | Flood Warning in effect from 7:14 PM CST on March 7, 2015 until 2:14 AM CDT on March9, 2015: The Flood Warning continues for the Pearl River near Pearl River.* Until further notice.* At 6:00 PM Saturday the stage was 15.7 feet.* Minor flooding is occurring and minor flooding is forecast.* Flood stage is 14.0 feet.* Forecast...the river will continue rising to near 15.7 feet by midnight tomorrow. Additional rises may be possible thereafter.* Imp
Slidell, LA: Clear 49°F (9°C), Humidity: 65%, Wind: Calm, Pressure: 30.35inHg (1028mb) and holding, Dewpoint: 38°F (3°C), Feels like 50°F (10°C), Visibility: 10Mi (16km), UV index: 0, Sunrise 06:18, Sunset: 18:01, Lunar phase: Waning gibbous Saturday: Partly Cloudy 62°F/45°F (16°C/7°C) | Sunday: Partly Cloudy 67°F/54°F (19°C/12°C) | Monday: Rain 65°F/61°F (18°C/16°C) | Tuesday: Rain 71°F/60°F (22°C/16°C) The average high for this date is 70°F (21°C), and the record of 83°F (28°C) was set in 1974. The average low is 52°F (11°C), and the record of 30°F (-1°C) was set in 1966 | [18:10] |
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| RandalSchwartz | @weather 97005 | [18:48] |
| BryceBot | Beaverton, OR: Clear 60°F (15°C), Humidity: 49%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=45.498989,-122.791229 or re-request this with: @weather -v 97005 | [18:48] |
| mercutio | @weather auckland | [18:48] |
| BryceBot | Auckland, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 74°F (23°C), Humidity: 75%, Wind: From the WSW at 3.8 MPH Gusting to 17.4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.973896,174.878021 or re-request this with: @weather -v auckland | [18:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | @weather oakland | [18:49] |
| BryceBot | Multiple locations matched your query: Oakland, AR (zmw:72661.1.99999), Oakland, CA (zmw:94601.1.99999), Oakland, FL (zmw:34740.2.99999), Oakland, IL (zmw:61943.1.99999), Oakland, IA (zmw:51560.1.99999), Oakland, KY (zmw:42159.1.99999), Oakland, ME (zmw:04963.1.99999), Oakland, MD (zmw:21550.1.99999), Oakland, MI (zmw:48306.4.99999), Oakland, MN (zmw:56007.3.99999), Oakland, MS (zmw:38948.1.99999), Oakland, MO (zmw:63122.3.99999), Oakland, NE (zm | [18:49] |
| RandalSchwartz | whoa
@weather oakland, ca | [18:49] |
| BryceBot | Oakland, CA: Clear 64°F (17°C), Humidity: 51%, Wind: From the West at 2.7 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=37.785202,-122.199837 or re-request this with: @weather -v oakland, ca | [18:49] |
| RandalSchwartz | there we go
the "other" auckland :) | [18:49] |
| mercutio | the other? | [18:57] |
| RandalSchwartz | yes... there's a story of a person getting on a flight at SFO, heading for what he though was "oakland". Turns out, it was a flight to auckland.
... http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-11/local/me-11793_1_auckland | [18:58] |
| JC_Denton | lol | [19:02] |
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| JC_Denton | long flight difference | [19:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - I think he was wondering why he wasn't down in an hour or so | [19:02] |
| JC_Denton | and why would you fly from SFO to OAK?
that has to be like the dumbest flight ever | [19:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | speaking of oakland, I had to pick up my girlfriend once at OAK and her flight was "alaska 404". I was wondering if I would see "flight not found" | [19:03] |
| JC_Denton | i actually discovered OAK recently and quite like it | [19:03] |
| mercutio | randal: don't they separate international and domestic terminals there? | [19:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | apparently this was 1985
probably more ways to make mistakes :) US doesn't have any exit customs so it could have been all from same terminal | [19:03] |
| mercutio | jc: don't people regularly fly between los angeles and san francisco?
i don't know where oakland is though oh it's one bridge away | [19:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | Oh... might have been originated in Sac | [19:05] |
| mercutio | 23 minutes by car apparently
where's santa clara hmm | [19:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | more details - http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-03/local/me-28522_1_europe-vacation | [19:05] |
| mercutio | oh santa clara is a bit further away | [19:06] |
| grody | grody somehow ended up installing windows 10 TP to play with | [19:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | Ahhh yeah, from LAX
either to auckland or oakland | [19:06] |
| mercutio | grody: i have windows 10. what do you think? | [19:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | and he was still in internatil | [19:06] |
| grody | not bah
bad* it's pretty damned fast on this thing too | [19:06] |
| mercutio | grody: windows 10 feels faster than windows 2008 did to me
but it's got a few annoying bugs. like it keeps wanting me to do an update, but there's no update, and i have to click postpone. | [19:06] |
| grody | not had that | [19:07] |
| mercutio | but like if playing a game or something, it'll pop up taking over :/
i didn't used to have it, it started at some point also it boots into this thing saying whether you want to roll back every boot this was "upgraded" to build 9926 | [19:07] |
| grody | just finished playing with miracast | [19:08] |
| mercutio | i dunno if that makes any diff
also they keep updating the amd video drivers recently, and the most recent ones seem buggy | [19:08] |
| grody | swmbo was watching TV, then i just took it over with IE on youtube | [19:08] |
| mercutio | and i have to unplug/replug my monitor to a different slot sometimes
or the secreen is all garbled. | [19:08] |
| grody | ah i installed the ones off AMD site | [19:08] |
| mercutio | so yeah a few annoying issues, but nothing corrupting data or anything | [19:09] |
| grody | didnt find 2D was all that | [19:09] |
| mercutio | really? | [19:09] |
| grody | plus a few windows 8 drivers for a few other specifics which has gotten everything working | [19:09] |
| mercutio | i'm pretty sure they're including the real amd drivers now. | [19:09] |
| grody | i think so, but was no opencl :> | [19:09] |
| mercutio | oh | [19:09] |
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| mercutio | i don't know what programs use opencl
i found some opencl test which didn't work on linux but it all seemed rather complicated. | [19:10] |
| grody | it also allows swapping to video ram in some scenarios
boinc uses it too | [19:10] |
| mercutio | i don't know that program
i was kind of hoping more things would be accelerated by now my amd cpu is so much slower than g3258 | [19:11] |
| grody | aye, i have seen some databases being offloaded | [19:13] |
| mercutio | oh? | [19:13] |
| grody | but would have hoped to shunt a virtual machine or most of it's load off on it | [19:13] |
| mercutio | i think amd's lack of memory bandwidth and high latency kind of hurt
like the g3258 has way faster memory speed for the same clock rate | [19:13] |
| grody | http://highscalability.com/scaling-postgresql-using-cuda
there are some apps in debian & mint that are poc of similar | [19:15] |
| mercutio | oh curious.
i got that library thingy for doing stuff going for amd's hybrid mode or whtaever thing they call it hsa? the demo thing ran but i couldn't find anything useful to run with it | [19:16] |
| grody | hm
grub will boot linux in secondary partitions, right? | [19:17] |
| mercutio | i think so, i use uefi | [19:17] |
| grody | fbsd in primary (with secondaries in container), windows in another primary, debiab in another with LVM then a few small to tinker with in secondaries off the last space for primary
this bios/efi is weird.. it's a bios, but supports secure boot and a uefi console, but noting fancy freebsd's uefi boot barfs the screen like esxi does so far only archlinux seems to utilize the uefi boot (as does windows) properly see how long it is until i break this... | [19:18] |
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| brycec | (grub can boot linux on any mbr or gpt partition, provided the bios can boot to grub at least -- grub installed to the mbr, or first partition typically)
I thought Fedora and CentOS had mature/proper UEFI usage. | [19:53] |
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| mercutio | don't they all use grub2? | [21:00] |
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| brycec | Arch offers grub2, but since Arch is very much a "build it however you like" distro, I wouldn't say it necessarily uses any one thing.
(for instance, Arch provides directions on booting a kernel EFI stub directly, or using any other bootloader) | [21:07] |
| mercutio | yeah, i've been meaning to try efi stubs directly
or at least consider something other than grub | [21:10] |
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