[02:09] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [05:11] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [08:50] yay. finally feels like winter again. [08:53] @weather kaeg [08:53] Double Eagle Ii, NM: Overcast ☁ 30°F (0°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: From the West at 12 MPH Gusting to 14 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=, or re-request this with: @weather -v kaeg [09:48] @weather [09:48] brycec: Fetching weather for your previous query (pws:IAUCKLAN208) [09:48] Hobsonville Aero, New Zealand: Overcast ☁ 67°F (19°C), Humidity: 72%, Wind: From the SE at 11.4 MPH Gusting to 15.2 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.725250,174.733063 or re-request this with: @weather -v [09:48] d'oh [09:48] @weather 99019 [09:48] Liberty Lake, WA: Clear 33°F (0°C), Humidity: 65%, Wind: From the East at 4.0 MPH Gusting to 4.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=47.666508,-117.100792 or re-request this with: @weather -v 99019 [10:13] What's with the decimal wind speed ... [10:13] That is not useful. [10:14] Ah perhaps translated from knots. [10:14] Division of some sorts. [10:15] It seems odd that knots would be used for wind speed [10:15] Doesn't make much sense for anything but water speed [10:15] As a pilot, I disagree! [10:16] ^^^^^^ [10:16] Everything is measured in knots, w.r.t. airspeed, and wind. [10:16] yep [10:16] (Older airplanes do measure in MPH sometimes, but modern are all knots.) [10:16] But I can't very well toss a rope out the plane windows and measure [10:16] Distance traveled is is also knots. [10:16] mhoran: Not NM? [10:17] (Nautical Miles, not New Mexico) [10:17] Well, nautical miles (distance). [10:17] (i know) [10:17] (i know (i know)) [10:17] "A nautical mile (symbol M, NM or nmi) is a unit of distance that is approximately one minute of arc measured along any meridian." [10:18] So yes, we don't measure with a rope, but it is useful for measurement vs. miles. [10:18] Of course my airplane was designed by an Austrian company so there's an awesome mix of knots, nautical miles, meters, statute miles, pounds, and kilograms. [10:19] Oh, and fahrenheit and celsius. [10:19] diamond? [10:19] Indeed. [10:19] cool [11:04] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [11:05] @weather -v yyz [11:05] Special Weather Statement in effect from February 23, 2015 until : extreme cold warningfor southern Ontarioupdated by Environment Canadaat 10:50 a.M. EST Monday 23 February 2015.---------------------------------------------------------------------Extreme cold warning for: City of Toronto Windsor - Essex - Chatham-Kent Sarnia - Lambton Elgin London - Middlesex Simcoe - Delhi - Norfolk Dunnville - Caledonia - Haldimand Oxford - Brant Niagara City o [11:05] Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Low Drifting Snow ❄ 3°F (-16°C), Humidity: 47%, Wind: From the WNW at 21 MPH, Pressure: 30.56inHg (1035mb) and falling, Dewpoint: -13°F (-25°C), Feels like -18°F (-28°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 4, Sunrise 07:05, Sunset: 17:59, Lunar phase: Waxing crescent [11:05] Monday: Partly Cloudy 5°F/-5°F (-15°C/-21°C) | Tuesday: Snow Showers 18°F/9°F (-8°C/-13°C) | Wednesday: Partly Cloudy 11°F/-8°F (-12°C/-22°C) | Thursday: Partly Cloudy 10°F/-6°F (-12°C/-21°C) [11:05] The average high for this date is 32°F (0°C), and the record of 42°F (5°C) was set in 1998. The average low is 18°F (-7°C), and the record of 6°F (-14°C) was set in 1999 [11:37] sounds awesome [12:13] -25c?! [12:13] @weather akl [12:13] Auckland International, New Zealand: Partly Cloudy ☁ 66°F (19°C), Humidity: 83%, Wind: From the SE at 7 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl [12:35] *** mumbledog has joined #arpnetworks [12:49] *** mumbledog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:24] *** _Zodiac has joined #arpnetworks [13:24] *** _Zodiac has left [14:33] *** ameise has joined #arpnetworks [14:34] *** ant has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [14:34] *** ameise is now known as ant [15:20] whats the most userfriendly BSD that provides a decent graphical interface for Desktop use? [15:21] Are you asking us for our favorite BSD? [15:23] sure, if you use it on a desktop [15:23] I use OpenBSD on my laptop. [15:23] do you find the array of software available comparable to that on linux? [15:23] No idea, but it compares decently to FreeBSD. [15:23] I've heard PC-BSD is aiming to be that uber-friendly desktop BSD [15:24] (But I've never used it) [15:24] Unless you care about 802.11n speed, or bluetooth, or... :P (re: OpenBSD compared to FreeBSD) [15:24] Heh, indeed. [15:27] (Not knocking, per-se, but somebody expecting "everything Linux does," especially desktop-oriented, would be disappointed. So it needed to be mentioned.) [15:27] It's definitely fair to point out. [15:27] i'd just use openbsd [15:27] decent graphical interface to me = ion [15:27] but i'm pretty sure you can run gnome on it [15:27] GNOME3 works. [15:29] But yeah, if you want full multimedia and all working hardware and so on, Linux wins. [15:31] And FreeBSD (and PC-BSD, I'm told) follows up. [15:33] Either way, LibertyBSD probably has the worst support. [15:56] PC-BSD was alright - i tested it on a notebook [15:56] used it for a week or two. didn't encounter anything that i wouldn't have also encountered w/linux [16:30] I used PC-BSD for a couple of years actually [16:30] on my laptop [16:38] i've never had huge desktop issues with openbsd [16:38] when i first used it on desktop it worked a lot easier than linux [16:38] like just plug a mouse in and it works. although linux has fixed that now i think :) [16:38] the usb mouse support on openbsd was good before linux was good :) [16:39] also openbsd has a proper audio mixer now. [16:39] i haven't used it in years, but i imagine web browser issues may happen. [16:39] but if that's fine, everything else shoudl be fine. [16:40] you may have to use chromium/firefox as chrome may not be supported. [16:40] so you'll probably be missing flash support, which may be seen as an advantage. [18:07] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [18:23] Call for testimonials: I'll put your image on our homepage (it'll be in a carousel with other testimonials) of the new website and also link to your twitter / blog / or any other URL. I need an image to go along with it: 81x81 or thereabouts [18:24] I'll pass it along to my manager [18:26] sweet tnx [18:32] *** mkb has joined #arpnetworks [18:56] brycec: funny thing with this [18:56] new Thinkpad [18:56] I can hear 60Hz hum in my headphones when it's plugged in [18:56] but only if I use the new style power supply that came with it [19:12] Fascinating! [19:12] I get that as well but when I use my noise canceling headphones it's masked by the white noise. [19:21] i think that's a bad ground somewhere [19:33] acf: so it's fine if on battery? [19:45] sounds like a crappy psu [19:45] those little switching dc psus suck [19:46] the one for my old laptop caused a ticking via headphone output or usb dac output. i got a replacement from hp and it did the same thing, so i got an aftermarket one and it stopped [20:01] they're normally interchangeable afaik [20:01] other than the 65/90watt diff [20:02] i dunno why they use 19v [20:03] barrel config isn't always the same [20:03] ahh [20:03] you mean polarity or size? [20:03] size and pinout can vary [20:03] both [20:04] ok, there's not that many kinds though [20:04] * m0unds shrugs [20:04] so i assume hp will work with hp, lenovo with lenovo etc [20:04] across models. [20:04] "for the most part" [20:04] i had two different hp laptops with two different sized plugs [20:04] yea [20:04] actually my chromebook has a slightly smaller power plug i think [20:04] both were elitebooks, one had a huge plug, the other had a tiny one [20:05] i have multiple things using the older big ones and just chromebook using the smaller. [20:05] i have a monitor that takes laptop psu :/ [20:06] yea, it works fine on battery [20:06] and also on the old style power supply [20:06] but yeah doing a bit of research and finding a different psu may help [20:06] or just plugging it in somewhere elser [20:06] i've had hum issues with amps at times, it's bloody annoying [20:10] oh just use the old psu i suppsoe :) [20:10] does the US have earth plugs? [20:10] all the devices i see seem to be 2 pin rather than 3 pin [20:11] but maybe it's just what i've come across [20:11] yes, but Thinkpad power supplies don't [20:11] In Canada we do [20:11] all of the other laptop ones I've seen do though [20:11] my chromebook psu doesn't. [20:11] is the power polarized atleast? ie: can you plug it in either direction? [20:11] and it's a US style plug [20:12] mnathani_: either direction is fine [20:12] same [20:12] it's cool how nearly everything has power supplies that can operate on different voltages now [20:12] some devices here are one way only, still without earth / ground plug [20:13] all devices here are one way only [20:13] it's kind of handy to flip cellphone chargers aronud the other way so it doesn't block plugs [20:36] anyone remember how to setup openvpn to provide ipv6 connectivity via an ipv4 tunnel? [21:13] I think you have to use the tap device instead of tun [21:13] tap bridges the lower layer as mac addresses, not IP addresses. [21:15] and then there's this: https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/IPv6 [21:16] I wonder why they don't use fe80 addresses there [21:21] you can do either a routed or bridged VPN [21:21] if your /48 is routed to you [21:22] ie, [21:22] eth0: 2607:f2f8:a0e0:1::1/64 [21:22] tun0: 2607:f2f8:a0e0:2::1/64 [21:22] route add -6 2607:f2f8:a0e0:3::/64 2607:f2f8:a0e0:2::2 [21:22] assuming the other end of your tunnel is 2607:f2f8:a0e0:2::2 [21:23] you can use fe80 addresses for some of those [21:24] yeah, you still have to use a piece of your /48 (ideally a /64) on your link [21:24] err... your machine at the other end [21:25] so it could be {internet} -> [your front facing /64] -> [fe80] -> [your second /64] [21:25] or {internet} -> [front /64] -> [tunnel /64] -> [back 64] [21:26] or {internet} -> [front /64] -> [tunnel /64] with no hosts behind [21:26] also remember to enable routing in Linux [21:26] for IPv6 [21:26] if you use fe80 for the tunnel, not wasting a /64 even if you want to use a 64 in the back [21:46] mnathani_: server-ipv6 {ipv6/netmask} is the directive for OpenVPN to hand out ipv6 addresses using routed/tun. After that, it's just a matter of configuring your system routing/forwarding. [21:50] . /56 I think is routed [21:52] rather /52 [21:55] /56 would be the standard boundary [21:56] I used to have 3 VPS [21:56] But /64 is the standard "smallest subnet" [21:56] so the /48 is actually /52 on each of the 3 vps [21:56] Ah [21:56] so v6 didnt depend all on one VPS [21:57] atleast not one one of my vps, I later learned that all of ARP's v6 is on a VPS [21:58] you mean it's all bridged? [22:01] routed [22:01] ARP routes each /52 to a different fe80:: /vps [22:15] That's nice of Garry. Certainly non-standard [22:36] non-standard indeed. [22:36] up_the_irons: I appreciate it [23:15] :)