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| mkb | in the interests of minimalism the Linux people have been removing practically everything useful from their OSes
mercutio, maybe telnet protocol is dead but it's useful for seeing if a server accepts connections on port X | [05:20] |
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| mhoran | s/removing.*/moving everything useful from their OSes into systemd/ | [06:06] |
| BryceBot | <mkb> in the interests of minimalism the Linux people have been moving everything useful from their OSes into systemd | [06:06] |
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| mkb | s/minimalism/dubious minimalism (at best)/ | [06:35] |
| BryceBot | <mkb> in the interests of dubious minimalism (at best) the Linux people have been removing practically everything useful from their OSes | [06:35] |
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| brycec | I would argue that it's less about minimalism and more of not encouraging bad practices. Even Windows/MSFT removed telnet from their "base" install. | [08:00] |
| mike-burns | telnetd
Did they also remove telnet, the client? | [08:08] |
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| technoid_ | I still use telnet to test that services are answering | [08:17] |
| brycec | I use netcat, or nmap. | [08:25] |
| technoid_ | I am old, change is hard | [08:30] |
| m0unds | telnet is part of the base system in centos 7
at least it was on mine telnet.x86_64 1:0.17-59.el7 @base | [08:35] |
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| mnathani | m0unds: yum install telnet installs it, but it was not installed by default | [09:26] |
| mkb | They don't have nc on Fedora either. And nc doesn't send rn, which testing a lot of services require
Though now a lot of that might need openssl s_client and that leaves a lot to be desired too | [09:28] |
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| brycec | "nc doesn't send" This statement is factually incorrect. | [09:37] |
| mkb | my nc doens't send rn unless I type ^M at the end of each line | [09:39] |
| brycec | Ohhh I misinterpreted what you said
thought my IRC client was just flaking out with the rn | [09:40] |
| mkb | ah. and there's one of them that requires the rn | [09:41] |
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| m0unds | mnathani: i figured it wasn't in yours, i was just noting it was installed by default in the base system on my install of centos 7 (@base)
which was installed from media with just the base system selected (all other stuff was added later by me using yum) | [16:11] |
| mnathani | mine was a net install, I think I picked infrastructure server | [16:12] |
| m0unds | ah, that could do it
i hadn't used centos in years so i figured i'd try out 7 | [16:12] |
| mnathani | are you familiar with / do you use: nc (or netcat) utility | [16:12] |
| m0unds | sorry, had to get coffee - i've only used it for basic stuff | [16:18] |
| brycec | nc is pretty easy/simple stuff. socat on the other hand... | [16:19] |
| m0unds | i used it mostly for debugging issues w/telemetry from recording gear at my old job
it was supposed to be sending certain strings of data on a port to a supervisor server, and we got a replacement LSI card w/different BIOS on it that formatted the output of a command differently than other stuff oh, and for debugging serial over network crap too yuck | [16:21] |
| brycec | It's fun stuff
I'm currently using socat to forward/bounce telnet connections | [16:26] |
| m0unds | neat | [16:26] |
| brycec | Got so tired of port-scanners hitting port 23 that I now "forward" those connections to the ascii star wars
server. (telnet vps3.cobryce.com) | [16:27] |
| m0unds | ahahaha | [16:27] |
| brycec | socat -lm -d -d -6 -U TCP-LISTEN:23,fork TCP:towel.blinkenlights.nl:23 | [16:27] |
| m0unds | too funny | [16:28] |
| brycec | brycec bows | [16:28] |
| mercutio | hahha
i thought this had colour | [16:39] |
| brycec | heh
I guess it all depends if you've licked any stamps lately :P | [16:45] |
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| brycec | "Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks." Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks.
http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/6963821-support-openbsd (flubbed the copy/paste) The Internet confuses me... | [19:35] |
| staticsafe | dat logic
wat | [19:35] |
| mhoran | Wat. | [19:35] |
| mercutio | why are you reading do forums? | [19:35] |
| brycec | Maybe that was secretly up_the_irons
In my defense, mercutio, it was linked to me by another channel | [19:35] |
| mercutio | i imagine he'd use some capitals for arp
"Openbsd for me too. It feels the safest environment for me as a home user. Totally given up Linux now. such quality on there | [19:36] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [19:36] |
| mercutio | http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/5812390-keep-arch-linux-on-digitalocean
arch is pretty easy to install from iso i wonder if this idea of shifting to templates is getting in the way | [19:38] |
| staticsafe | ain't nobody got time to manually install from an ISO
templates++ | [19:39] |
| mercutio | arch users do :/
well arch tends to be wehre people wnat to have options a lot of people wanted them to keep arch around and they're deprecating it i wonder if arp supports arch "Arch is my go-to. I'm upvoting this ticket and also the ticket to allow custom ISOs, to allow me to use Arch. Please?" | [19:39] |
| brycec | It certainly does insomuch as you can install your own ISO :p | [19:41] |
| mercutio | so they don't actually support iso on digitalocean | [19:41] |
| staticsafe | nope | [19:41] |
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| mkb | mkb doesn't understand this digital ocean fad
all I ever hear about them is people trying to petition them for some other OS I go find someone who will let me install whatever OS I want | [20:08] |
| mercutio | exactly.
that said, arp wasn't the first place i've had openbsd but in the past i'd had to do iso install | [20:09] |
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