[07:47] seems like internet connected receivers makes life easier for directv techs [16:36] *** Nat_RH has left [17:39] http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/12/30/2235230/nsa-says-they-have-vpns-in-a-vulcan-death-grip [18:12] mus1cbox: did you see the post about php vulnerabilities? [18:12] i don't normally read slashdot these days... but the php thing is kind of scary. [18:13] AdChoices wants me to get an ARP VPS. :) [18:15] heh. [18:15] yea i did [18:15] not surprised [18:16] neither [18:16] but i like the visibility around it. [18:16] as one of the posters pointed out the big issue is that upgrading php versions breaks things. [18:17] so shared web hosts are reluctant to upgrade php versions and break peoples sites. [18:21] yea it's quite disgusting [18:21] how would you handle that? i'd like to say upgrade n fuck em, but it could also mean 2500 support calls at ~3 min each [18:39] i guess this is why i never got into web hosting. too much chance for customers needing support, bugs, hacks, etc [19:05] yeah i wouldn't advise using shared hosting /or/ providing it [19:07] well if you must use wordpress etc use someone who will do updates/maintenance for it. [19:08] and expect to pay more than if you had a vps [19:13] fuck all that [19:15] can you imagine having customers paying $2/mo for 500GB of disk space and 10TB of 10Gbps bandwidth emailing and calling you for help with css then leaving bad reviews on the web? [19:15] yeh i wouldn't want to do it [19:15] i'm against cheap hostingf. [19:15] i think managed or vps. [19:15] all day son! [19:16] when i was checking archive.org about arp it looked like arp used to do web hosting [19:16] probably learned the hard way [19:16] i can't see anything now. i assume he realised the futility of it :) [19:16] ya fuck that [19:20] http://www.zdnet.com/article/unmanaged-wordpress-not-usually-worth-the-risk-or-trouble/ [19:22] isn't loading, they must be using wordpress [19:22] heh zdnet is an awful site [19:23] but it's a big site, so it's nice to see it's echoing my view s:) [19:23] another decade, another mediocre zdnet [19:23] yeh [20:40] *** mkb_ has joined #arpnetworks [20:42] *** mkb_ has quit IRC (Client Quit)