#arpnetworks/ 2014-12-06,Sat

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m0undsreset the rb to factory (glutton for punishment) and it's no longer crashing. yay. [08:53]
staticsafemy mikrotik devices have been super stable [08:55]
m0undsi've never had luck with any of the ones i've used
i've had this 450 for like 5 years, and stopped using it because each bugfix release broke new stuff and mikrotik generally doesn't care
also, i was one of the lucky people who got a device out of the batch w/bad capacitors in it
(they ignored reports of devices blowing up for almost 6 months before admitting they had a mfg issue, but refused to warranty repair anything)
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staticsafei have a RB751G-2HnD and a CRS125-24G-1S
both newer devices than yours
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m0undsi have an rb450g and used to have an rb1100ahx2
the 450 is one of their most-sold devices for WISPs and stuff
given the option, i'd still use one over any consumer stuff
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staticsafeagreed [09:03]
m0undsand their qos flexibility is great [09:04]
staticsafei'm not doing anything complex on mine so it probably explains the stability [09:04]
m0undsall i did was qos and dumb nat stuff
vpn functionality on the 1100 was godawful, so i just gave up on trying to do that and sold it
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staticsafeVPN stuff is much better now in the 6.x series [09:05]
m0undsmemory use is better on 6 too [09:09]
staticsafei've only had the RB751G-2HnD crash once and reboot
never seen it again
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m0undsthis one was doing all kinds of squirrelly shit last night before i reset it to factory, haha
it would crash if i disabled qos rules, it would crash again when enabling them, it crashed when i enabled dhcpv6 client, crashed again when i configured it to RA the ipv6 prefix it got from comcast
just weird all around
guessing the upgrade from 5.x to 6.x didn't like an older config or something on the device since wiping stabilized it
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staticsafeyeah
there are bugs upgrading from 5.x to 6.x
they fixed a few of them in recent 6.x releases
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mercutiothey look intersting from hardware point of view
it's the software side that makes me apprehensive
tilera cpus sound like they're pretty good
but i don't htink routeros is taking proper advantage of it
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staticsafeyeah it isn't
i don't think the x86 stuff is quite there yet
for routeros
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mercutiox86? [10:46]
staticsafeyeah the tilera stuff is x86 [10:46]
mercutiooh i thought it was more arm like [10:47]
staticsafeactually on their page it says
Architecture TILE
http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2Splus
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mercutiothere are cards for pc
with tile cpus on them
maybe that made you think x86?
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staticsafeyeah
but iirc it still does BGP on one core
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mercutiosee something like that looks good
until you realise it can't do simple mirror functionality
mirror port
bgp on one core shouldn't be that bad
juniper still only use one core for bgp too :/
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staticsafenow im trying to figure how why php-fpm is giving me a blank page [10:52]
mercutioi had that happen to me too
i can't quite remember what it was at that point though
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staticsafeand its hard to debug cause i can't figure out how to make php-fpm return an actual error [10:53]
mercutioyeh
that's what i thought
check the nginx error log?
and fpm error log?
maybe it'll come back to me what happened to me haha
did you know php-fpm can backtrace a page that takes too long to load?
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staticsafenothing in the fpm error log, nginx error log, php-fpm is returning 500s
2001:470:1d:96b::1000 - - [06/Dec/2014:18:51:52 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 500 5 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36"
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mercutioi think what i stumbled on for longest was that i was using alias rather than setting root and files were trying to get served from wrong place. [11:01]
staticsafethat might be it but I can't see it [11:03]
mercutioi had something in nginx error log
in the end i symlinked cacti to /usr/share/cacti/site
cos it was cacti using php
it kept trying to load /usr/share/cacti/site/cacti/
when going to hostname/cacti
with lighttpd i just used aliases.
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staticsafehttps://gist.github.com/staticsafe/294c4b56ef5b57de2048 [11:06]
BryceBotGist: "asininetech.com.conf" [11:06]
mercutiooh i think you have to stick the .php thing inside the location?
or at least before the location
oh it says it matches last all?
err matches last
when screwing around i stuck my .php location thing before the normal location thing and now i dunno if it's necessary or not
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staticsafeyeah its the config I copied from the currently working server that I'm planning on moving [11:10]
mercutioahh my other host doesn't.
and you checked socket permissions?
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staticsafeits using a tcp socket [11:11]
mercutiohmm i have fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock;
oh
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staticsafeupstream php {
server 127.0.0.1:9000;
}
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mercutioyeah
and that's listening fine?
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staticsafetcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:9000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 29594/php-fpm: mast [11:13]
mercutiomy php fpm has like nothing useful at all generally
[23-Nov-2014 10:36:05] WARNING: [pool www] child 15800 exited on signal 11 (SIGSEGV - core dumped) after 87.360830 seconds from start
don't remember what that was
but it was ages ago
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staticsafecurrent server is Debian, this new one is CentOS 7, i wonder if there is some small difference breaking things [11:15]
mercutioi had problems with ubuntu but not arch :)
try tcpdump
tcpdump -l -n -i lo port 9000
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staticsafeoh good idea [11:17]
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brycecfwiw, php-fpm dumps errors to the server's error log. But if you're getting 500, that's a server configuration issue, not php-fpm's. [11:35]
staticsafehm [11:37]
brycec(not that it's impossible for php-fpm to return a 500 too, as it would in this case. But the fact that there's nothing in the server error log suggests that it's not php-fpm's fault. If it were php-fpm, I'd expect something like: 2014/12/06 11:40:14 [error] 4925#0: *1332261 FastCGI sent in stderr: "PHP message: PHP Parse error: syntax error) [11:41]
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mercutiostatic any luck? [12:13]
staticsafemercutio: nope
i'm giving up for now
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mercutioahh ok [13:20]
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mnathaniJust finished walking my dad through restoring his malware infected Dell Windows 7 machine back to factory settings (over the phone) [19:04]
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mercutioi see news.arpnetworks.com is slowly getting a few more users. [19:38]
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