#arpnetworks/ 2014-12-02,Tue

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up_the_ironsmercutio: played around with coreos at all? [00:36]
mercutionot yet
i havent' looked at flocker yet either
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up_the_ironswonder if i spin up a coreos node if we can run fucking meteor.. ;) [00:38]
mercutiohahaha
i was using arch when i tried it
CoreOS aggregates individual machines into a single pool of resources. Instead of running a service on a specific machine, services are submitted to the cluster and the cluster manager, fleet, decides where they should run. Fleet allows you to gracefully update CoreOS across your cluster, handles machine failures automatically and allows for efficient resource utilization.
that is pretty cool
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up_the_ironsyeah i've been looking into it lately [00:40]
mercutiohttps://coreos.com/blog/rocket/
brycebot has gone?
i thought it'd give a summary :)
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up_the_ironshe's sleeping [00:42]
mercutiooh he's still here
it's a container runtime to replace docker, which has sketchy security
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up_the_ironshmm.. thought coreos was pretty set on docker
not to replace it
oh
i now see their point
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brycecmercutio: BryceBot only gives summaries for sites for which it knows how to summarise (to put it plainly) [00:47]
mercutiobrycec: oh, i thought it might take the title or first part of page in general
you've taught it about quite a few sites it seems :)
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brycecmercutio: http://noembed.com/ serves the majority of those summaries
(and provides said list)
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up_the_ironscan openbsd 5.6 do virtio now?
oh i think it could in 5.5...
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mercutioit has been able to for a while
it may have even been 5.4
as far back as when you did the trial vps's
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up_the_ironsah ok
cool
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mercutiowhich seems to have been in oct 2012
time flies :)
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up_the_ironsdang [02:42]
mercutio: so does news.arpnetworks.com come back up after VM reboot? [02:47]
mercutioyeh
that's why i rebooted it before.
i see someone else commented on it
i was just taking another look at the ui atm :)
it's amazingly fast
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up_the_ironsah cool [02:50]
mercutioi'm so used to sluggish web applications :) [02:51]
up_the_ironsyeah that was my friend francisco [02:51]
mercutioi was wondering who that was, they don't irc do they? [02:51]
up_the_ironshe's the one that told me about Telescope yesterday ;)
nah he's not big into irc
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mercutiowhat's the intention for this site anyway?
are you going to use it like a blog of sorts?
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up_the_ironsmercutio: hosting news
from like the industry
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mercutioahh right [02:58]
up_the_ironssince it is reddit-like, i think it may be an interesting source of news. like, if an article sucks, it'll die [02:59]
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brycecbrycec grumbles about pointless reboots [08:26]
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brycecI feel like somebody is obsessed with thewhir ;p [08:29]
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staticsafemercutio: you see that Cloudflare is coming to NZ [16:29]
mercutiostatic yes
a couple of weeks i think
i had some questions about it, but i haven't asked them
like are they going to backhaul back to sydney node or go straight to the US etc.
and are they going to have transit in nz for non-peering
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staticsafestaticsafe nods [16:34]
mercutioit's a nz guy that was posting about it though
who went overseas
so he should be pretty familiar with nz :)
now if only steam would peer in nz
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staticsafe:o
surprised they don't
i guess they thought australia was close enough
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mercutiodunno
nz had a lot of local steam mirrors before they changed their network setup
and in australia they're doing a weird agreement with highwinds networks to reduce cost
i can't really see them doing anything soon, nor google
google don't even have a full deployment in australia, it's more a kind of leaf node.
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mercutiohow did you know about it anyway staticsafe ? [16:44]
staticsafeNZNOG [16:44]
mercutiooh you read that? [16:44]
staticsafeyeah [16:44]
mercutioor just happened upon it
there's not much activity on it
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staticsafeim subbed to all the major NOG lists
yeah but it is interesting
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mercutioso you saw all the internet exchange talk?
there's one primary internet exchange in new zealand.
but suddenly two more are coming
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staticsafeyeah saw that
exciting times
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mercutioi dunno
interesting cloudflare is going to be on all three. valve is only on equinix in sydney.
and equinix is generally considered to be on the more expensive side
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up_the_ironsbrycec: well, it was a good place to get some test articles fast :) [19:01]
mercutioi think it's funny when people keep saying the linux desktop is coming soon [19:13]
up_the_ironsmercutio: lol srsly [19:14]
BryceBotsrsly [19:14]
mercutioone thing i notice lacking from that article is any mention how the first people to do something new don't usually make much money. [19:14]
up_the_ironsi've used Linux on the desktop most of my life, but i'm not going to kid myself. it's never coming to the "desktop" [19:14]
mercutioand how doing new things is much riskier with lower reward, but doing things that someone else has already done significantly cheaper can make a huge difference.
i kind of find the whole idea of a desktop amusing.
i mean apple 2's were considered desktop computers
and linux is more friendly than apple 2's
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mnathaniwhats the difference between domestic origination and domestic backhaul? [20:05]
mercutiooh i suppose domestic transit is something foreign to you?
domestic backhaul would be i suppose intercity/interstate and domestic origination would be transit links?
here there's kind of a split between national/international, kind of akin to paying comcast to send traffic to them.
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mnathanisaw a post on AUSNOG saying something about an Australian Dedicated server [20:06]
mercutioaustralia has some really messed up domestic transit costs.
it's about 10x as expensive as here i think
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mnathaniSoftlayer with 1gbit pipe [20:07]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [20:07]
mnathaniBryceBot: no [20:07]
BryceBotOh, okay... I'm sorry. 'Softlayer with 1gbit pipe' [20:07]
mercutiowell it varies.
like within the same city is cheap, but across the country expensive
i seem to recall people throwing around numbers like $20/megabit
i haven't seen cheap australian dedicated servers with high bandwidth
but from my understanding you'll struggle to get a dedicated server with gigabit network domestically at affordable pricing
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hmm serversaustralia list gigabit
i wonder how fast it goes
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