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ant has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: anyone used these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167192
looks like a wicked price for a 480GB SSD ($199) mhoran: What's with the skull? Haha up_the_irons: it's hip brah
maybe this is better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821&cm_re=500gb_ssd-_-20-148-821-_-Product ***: meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
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ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons m0unds: up_the_irons: anandtech seems to like that model w/caveats about hw crypto & power consumption brycec: Ooooooooh that's shiny, 480GB for $200, good brand... acf_: we have our own tools for that anyway :P
oops wrong terminal :P brycec: lol mercutio: was that intel 730?
oh mx100 brycec: mercutio: yes mercutio: is also cheap brycec: "Intel 730 Series" mercutio: i was thinking of getting mx100s before
they have higher block size ;(
i kind of decided to wait.
i think they shifted to 16k block size from 8k block size BryceBot: That's what she said!! mnathani: Brycebot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'i think they shifted to 16k block size from 8k block size' mercutio: what happened to seagate 600s
last black friday they were really cheap iirc
but i had no idea if they were good RandalSchwartz: anyone here used ipmiview (java) before?
having trouble firing up the console. mercutio: oh god
that program is terrible :)
you mean the downloadable ipmi tool from supermicro right? RandalSchwartz: yeah, the 20 files or so mercutio: yeah i didn't like it
try the commandline ipmitool RandalSchwartz: where do I get that?
and I need to see the screen
to see what went wrong if it won't reboot mercutio: it comes with most os's
except windows :)
setup serial console? RandalSchwartz: I don't know anything about serial consoles like this. brycec: http://www.paranoid.nl/~marieke/freebsd/ipmi/ipmicons.html should guide you on setting up the SoL console
(More recent FreeBSD's won't require recompiling the bootloader, according to http://serverfault.com/questions/574351/serial-over-lan-on-freebsd-10-0-with-supermicro-x9-scm-f) RandalSchwartz: Garry says "I used IPMIView. It's the "KVM Console" tab and then click "Launchr KVM Console". Do you see the row of tabs on the bottom after your login?r" brycec: The tl;dr of it is that the SoL enumerates as just another serial port, and setting up SoL on the server is no different than setting it up for a standard serial console. RandalSchwartz: again, something I'm not familiar with. brycec: (Pffft what does "Garry" know, he's know up_the_irons </sarcasm>)
s/know/no/ BryceBot: <brycec> (Pffft what does "Garry" no, he's no up_the_irons </sarcasm>) brycec: (d'oh) RandalSchwartz: I dont see the KVM Console tab this time
and the one time it showed up, when I clicked on it, and the screen opened and immediatley closed.
I tried that repeatedly.
now i'm not even sure how to get to there. :) mercutio: ipmitool -L USER -I lanplus -H <ip> -U <user> -P <pass> sol activate
try that to access it
where ip is the ip of the vpn thingy
err through the vpn
and user and pass is listed on same page as ip RandalSchwartz: Invalid privilege level USER
ahh, and my error message doesn't show -I anything mercutio: oh
i had to add -L USER in
maybe you don't need it? RandalSchwartz: when I remove -L USER, still balks at that -I mercutio: different implementations are different :)
it doesn't liek -I ? RandalSchwartz: oh I left out the IP mercutio: -I intf Interface to use
wtf RandalSchwartz: Not in my error message mercutio: oh
it doesn't mean physical interface RandalSchwartz: oooh... got this:
[SOL Session operational. Use ~? for help] mercutio: sweet
you got it then RandalSchwartz: and then what? mercutio: now you just haev to make sure it's outputting to serial :)
so you didn't need to use -L USER?
without it i get Set Session Privilege Level to ADMINISTRATOR failed: Unknown (0x80) RandalSchwartz: I hit return and it said ProcessSOLUserInput - entered
ProcessSOLUserInput - read 1 chars
no - didn't need the -L or -I
-L level Remote session privilege level [default=ADMINISTRATOR] ***: meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) RandalSchwartz: is this supposed to show me something when it boots up? mercutio: ok :)
yeah ***: meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: how do I get the same view as the VNC console mercutio: and while in system
you don't :)
you setup your system for that
use the web interface to do the beginning bits
you're still struggling to get the web interface to go at all? RandalSchwartz: I can see the console
but I can't interact with it mercutio: with the web interface?
i didn't actually try typing anything into it i think :) RandalSchwartz: Hmm. now I can't find it again. silly web interface
oh, the first thing was "preview"
where am I supposed to be trying to type on the console? mercutio: remote control
console redirection -> launch console RandalSchwartz: I do that and nothing happens. BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: does it open a popup? RandalSchwartz: nope
nothing. nada. mercutio: it should have a launch.jlp or something file RandalSchwartz: "have", as in how? in the window? mercutio: it trys to download it in chrome for me
then you click on it
and it says it may harm your computer too :) RandalSchwartz: oh maybe it doesn't work in safari mercutio: then there's a black screen with some menus at top etc and you press a key
nah it should download the same i think
look at the downloads?
it's .jnlp
but you could try chrome if it's not coming up with a download or a pop up RandalSchwartz: ahh... chrome is better
I get launch.jnlp mercutio: ok click on that RandalSchwartz: but now I can't open it as it is from an unidentified developer mercutio: turn off the unidentified developer crap?
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14369 RandalSchwartz: now that doesn't open up. :) mercutio: weird RandalSchwartz: worked in chrome, not safari mercutio: does your vpn try and default route ? RandalSchwartz: I think this thing spooked safari :)
ok, reading that page, it's what I tried mercutio: settings in security & privacy preferences allows you to run untrusted apps by default
which is probably good :) RandalSchwartz: but there's no java setting to allow this now. apple removed it. mercutio: unless you're into the mac app store.
it's the general os x blocking afaik
android doesn't let you run untrusted apk's by default too
which is annoying if you want to sideload something not from app store, like from a recent build or such RandalSchwartz: yes... the "medium" setting is now gone. mercutio: from what i can tell it's not the java setting that it's hitting but the normal unidentified developer thing? RandalSchwartz: anyway, can't run it mercutio: that's why i was saying you should disable normal os x blocking
which is under security & privacy preferences RandalSchwartz: I'm familiar with the other popup
this is specificially getting past that, and getting to a java exception mercutio: oh RandalSchwartz: java used to have three levels
now just two mercutio: so now it's low and high? RandalSchwartz: apple took away the bottom one for security reasons
yeah, just high and super-high mercutio: ahh RandalSchwartz: medium is ogne
gone mercutio: damn
this sounds frustrating :) RandalSchwartz: you're telling me mercutio: do you have a windows vm? RandalSchwartz: especially when up_the_irons said he was able to get it to work
no... nothing windows
I want to watch him do it.
I no longer believe I have the same tools as what he says is working mercutio: he got it working on os x? RandalSchwartz: and this is stopping two other important things
we need to upgrade openssh, and that's a core os thing
so I need to get the machine to freebsd 8.4 patch 19
but I don't dare update the kernel without a console mercutio: yeah RandalSchwartz: and eventually, this machine needs to be freebsd 10
or 11 if we wait long enough :) mercutio: it's 10.1 already i think RandalSchwartz: well 8.4 is EOLed in a few months
so I have to get this machine up
jun 2015 I think mercutio: i prefer the hp lights out
on freebsd i have console="comconsole" but it's on a hp system
in /boot/loader.conf
but freebsd disables normal console when enablign serial
that may have changed, but this is freebsd 9.2 RandalSchwartz: yeah - I don't have any console="" there
just zfs and a few tunings for postgres mercutio: oh i still do have normal console
i dunno why i thought i didn't
hp you can show text mode console withotu serial too :)
just with ssh brycec: mercutio: "comconsole vidconsole" should enable both, according to the links I shared earlier mercutio: but yeah i'd try and get java workign first.
brycec: it seems i have both anyway? -: brycec shrugs mercutio: i really thought i didn't have both for some reason -: brycec has no ipmi boxes RandalSchwartz: ... https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html mercutio: i hate ipmi
but i like it too
it's nice that there's a semi-standardised way for computers to get serial console etc.
but i find just having ssh easier
the recent hp stuff lets you stick your key on too BryceBot: That's what she said!! brycec: HP stuff has ssh-on-bmc/ipmi?
(Or are we talking about http://www.xenoclast.org/nca/ now? :p) mercutio: yeah
dell and hp have had ssh for ages brycec: cool mercutio: it's dropbear
actually it's romsshell
it seems
with the dropping prices of nand etc, i wouldn't be surprised if there's proper embedded servers etc soon with automatic updates and the like m0unds: saw some sandisk extreme ii 960GB disk for ~$499 usd mercutio: wireless routers are already shifting to nand. nand has better wear leveling.
so doing updates all the time and treating them like a normal file system isn't so bad RandalSchwartz: ugh... still have a bit of hangover, and it's noon already.
normally don't get hangovers, but drank some wine yesteray. mercutio: wine can be special like that
white wine can give me headaches when normal alcohol doesn't RandalSchwartz: pdx sky club doesn't have hard liquor mercutio: even before the next day. RandalSchwartz: just beer/wine
hangover happily gone... replaced by a vodka/soda buzz. :) ***: hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks
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d^_^b has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) acf_: can anyone confirm Google's PMTU issue still exists?
it started for me long before anyone else.. ***: reardencode has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
reardencode has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: DNS Made Easy sent this to me back in 2010 : http://pastebin.com/UceGKXpP mercutio: i like it when people notify of issues
but what made you suddenly bring this up from years bacK? amazon's outage? mnathani: It came up in a discussion I had with someone regarding how folks generally dont like disclosing issues
I think you mean Azure's outage ***: RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) mercutio: cloudfront? mnathani: nvm, I see the outage report now mercutio: so azure also had an outage today?
seems samsung 850 pros are down in cost now mnathani: Azure was like a week / 10 days ago: http://azure.microsoft.com/blog/2014/11/19/update-on-azure-storage-service-interruption/ mercutio: are any big web sites hosted on them?
i didn't notice anything mnathani: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/11/azure-went-down-and-people-actually-noticed/ mercutio: i do half remember hearing about azure problems at some point though BryceBot: Ars Technica: "Azure went down, and people actually noticed" mercutio: wow people lost data in the azure thing mnathani: One of the comments: "If you want to run a big portion of the Internet then you need to act like an infrastructure provider and not a desktop applications vendor. " mercutio: haha