[00:24] *** pyvpx has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:25] *** pyvpx has joined #arpnetworks [00:46] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [02:23] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [04:18] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [05:59] *** ant has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [05:59] *** ant has joined #arpnetworks [06:08] anyone used these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167192 [06:08] looks like a wicked price for a 480GB SSD ($199) [06:17] What's with the skull? Haha [06:17] it's hip brah [06:21] maybe this is better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821&cm_re=500gb_ssd-_-20-148-821-_-Product [06:37] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [06:37] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [06:47] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [06:48] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [06:55] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [07:22] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [07:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [08:19] up_the_irons: anandtech seems to like that model w/caveats about hw crypto & power consumption [09:19] Ooooooooh that's shiny, 480GB for $200, good brand... [10:25] we have our own tools for that anyway :P [10:25] oops wrong terminal :P [10:29] lol [10:42] was that intel 730? [10:43] oh mx100 [10:43] mercutio: yes [10:43] is also cheap [10:43] "Intel 730 Series" [10:43] i was thinking of getting mx100s before [10:44] they have higher block size ;( [10:45] i kind of decided to wait. [10:45] i think they shifted to 16k block size from 8k block size [10:45] That's what she said!! [10:51] Brycebot: no [10:51] Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'i think they shifted to 16k block size from 8k block size' [10:55] what happened to seagate 600s [10:55] last black friday they were really cheap iirc [10:55] but i had no idea if they were good [10:59] anyone here used ipmiview (java) before? [11:00] having trouble firing up the console. [11:00] oh god [11:00] that program is terrible :) [11:00] you mean the downloadable ipmi tool from supermicro right? [11:03] yeah, the 20 files or so [11:04] yeah i didn't like it [11:04] try the commandline ipmitool [11:05] where do I get that? [11:05] and I need to see the screen [11:05] to see what went wrong if it won't reboot [11:05] it comes with most os's [11:05] except windows :) [11:05] setup serial console? [11:06] I don't know anything about serial consoles like this. [11:07] http://www.paranoid.nl/~marieke/freebsd/ipmi/ipmicons.html should guide you on setting up the SoL console [11:08] (More recent FreeBSD's won't require recompiling the bootloader, according to http://serverfault.com/questions/574351/serial-over-lan-on-freebsd-10-0-with-supermicro-x9-scm-f) [11:08] Garry says "I used IPMIView. It's the "KVM Console" tab and then click "Launchr KVM Console". Do you see the row of tabs on the bottom after your login?r" [11:09] The tl;dr of it is that the SoL enumerates as just another serial port, and setting up SoL on the server is no different than setting it up for a standard serial console. [11:09] again, something I'm not familiar with. [11:09] (Pffft what does "Garry" know, he's know up_the_irons ) [11:09] s/know/no/ [11:09] (Pffft what does "Garry" no, he's no up_the_irons ) [11:09] (d'oh) [11:09] I dont see the KVM Console tab this time [11:10] and the one time it showed up, when I clicked on it, and the screen opened and immediatley closed. [11:10] I tried that repeatedly. [11:10] now i'm not even sure how to get to there. :) [11:12] ipmitool -L USER -I lanplus -H -U -P sol activate [11:12] try that to access it [11:12] where ip is the ip of the vpn thingy [11:12] err through the vpn [11:13] and user and pass is listed on same page as ip [11:14] Invalid privilege level USER [11:15] ahh, and my error message doesn't show -I anything [11:15] oh [11:16] i had to add -L USER in [11:16] maybe you don't need it? [11:16] when I remove -L USER, still balks at that -I [11:16] different implementations are different :) [11:16] it doesn't liek -I ? [11:16] oh I left out the IP [11:16] -I intf Interface to use [11:17] wtf [11:17] Not in my error message [11:17] oh [11:17] it doesn't mean physical interface [11:17] oooh... got this: [11:17] [SOL Session operational. Use ~? for help] [11:17] sweet [11:17] you got it then [11:17] and then what? [11:17] now you just haev to make sure it's outputting to serial :) [11:18] so you didn't need to use -L USER? [11:18] without it i get Set Session Privilege Level to ADMINISTRATOR failed: Unknown (0x80) [11:18] I hit return and it said ProcessSOLUserInput - entered [11:18] ProcessSOLUserInput - read 1 chars [11:18] no - didn't need the -L or -I [11:18] -L level Remote session privilege level [default=ADMINISTRATOR] [11:18] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [11:19] is this supposed to show me something when it boots up? [11:19] ok :) [11:19] yeah [11:19] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [11:19] how do I get the same view as the VNC console [11:19] and while in system [11:19] you don't :) [11:19] you setup your system for that [11:19] use the web interface to do the beginning bits [11:20] you're still struggling to get the web interface to go at all? [11:21] I can see the console [11:21] but I can't interact with it [11:22] with the web interface? [11:22] i didn't actually try typing anything into it i think :) [11:22] Hmm. now I can't find it again. silly web interface [11:23] oh, the first thing was "preview" [11:23] where am I supposed to be trying to type on the console? [11:25] remote control [11:25] console redirection -> launch console [11:27] I do that and nothing happens. [11:27] That's what she said!! [11:27] does it open a popup? [11:27] nope [11:27] nothing. nada. [11:27] it should have a launch.jlp or something file [11:28] "have", as in how? in the window? [11:28] it trys to download it in chrome for me [11:28] then you click on it [11:28] and it says it may harm your computer too :) [11:28] oh maybe it doesn't work in safari [11:28] then there's a black screen with some menus at top etc and you press a key [11:28] nah it should download the same i think [11:28] look at the downloads? [11:29] it's .jnlp [11:29] but you could try chrome if it's not coming up with a download or a pop up [11:30] ahh... chrome is better [11:30] I get launch.jnlp [11:30] ok click on that [11:30] but now I can't open it as it is from an unidentified developer [11:30] turn off the unidentified developer crap? [11:30] http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14369 [11:31] now that doesn't open up. :) [11:31] weird [11:31] worked in chrome, not safari [11:31] does your vpn try and default route ? [11:32] I think this thing spooked safari :) [11:33] ok, reading that page, it's what I tried [11:33] settings in security & privacy preferences allows you to run untrusted apps by default [11:33] which is probably good :) [11:33] but there's no java setting to allow this now. apple removed it. [11:33] unless you're into the mac app store. [11:33] it's the general os x blocking afaik [11:33] android doesn't let you run untrusted apk's by default too [11:34] which is annoying if you want to sideload something not from app store, like from a recent build or such [11:34] yes... the "medium" setting is now gone. [11:34] from what i can tell it's not the java setting that it's hitting but the normal unidentified developer thing? [11:35] anyway, can't run it [11:35] that's why i was saying you should disable normal os x blocking [11:35] which is under security & privacy preferences [11:35] I'm familiar with the other popup [11:36] this is specificially getting past that, and getting to a java exception [11:36] oh [11:36] java used to have three levels [11:36] now just two [11:36] so now it's low and high? [11:36] apple took away the bottom one for security reasons [11:36] yeah, just high and super-high [11:36] ahh [11:36] medium is ogne [11:36] gone [11:36] damn [11:36] this sounds frustrating :) [11:36] you're telling me [11:37] do you have a windows vm? [11:37] especially when up_the_irons said he was able to get it to work [11:37] no... nothing windows [11:37] I want to watch him do it. [11:37] I no longer believe I have the same tools as what he says is working [11:38] he got it working on os x? [11:38] and this is stopping two other important things [11:38] we need to upgrade openssh, and that's a core os thing [11:38] so I need to get the machine to freebsd 8.4 patch 19 [11:38] but I don't dare update the kernel without a console [11:38] yeah [11:39] and eventually, this machine needs to be freebsd 10 [11:39] or 11 if we wait long enough :) [11:39] it's 10.1 already i think [11:39] well 8.4 is EOLed in a few months [11:39] so I have to get this machine up [11:39] jun 2015 I think [11:40] i prefer the hp lights out [11:41] on freebsd i have console="comconsole" but it's on a hp system [11:41] in /boot/loader.conf [11:41] but freebsd disables normal console when enablign serial [11:42] that may have changed, but this is freebsd 9.2 [11:42] yeah - I don't have any console="" there [11:42] just zfs and a few tunings for postgres [11:43] oh i still do have normal console [11:43] i dunno why i thought i didn't [11:43] hp you can show text mode console withotu serial too :) [11:43] just with ssh [11:44] mercutio: "comconsole vidconsole" should enable both, according to the links I shared earlier [11:44] but yeah i'd try and get java workign first. [11:44] brycec: it seems i have both anyway? [11:44] * brycec shrugs [11:44] i really thought i didn't have both for some reason [11:44] * brycec has no ipmi boxes [11:45] ... https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html [11:46] i hate ipmi [11:46] but i like it too [11:47] it's nice that there's a semi-standardised way for computers to get serial console etc. [11:47] but i find just having ssh easier [11:48] the recent hp stuff lets you stick your key on too [11:48] That's what she said!! [11:48] HP stuff has ssh-on-bmc/ipmi? [11:48] (Or are we talking about http://www.xenoclast.org/nca/ now? :p) [11:48] yeah [11:49] dell and hp have had ssh for ages [11:49] cool [11:49] it's dropbear [11:49] actually it's romsshell [11:49] it seems [11:53] with the dropping prices of nand etc, i wouldn't be surprised if there's proper embedded servers etc soon with automatic updates and the like [11:54] saw some sandisk extreme ii 960GB disk for ~$499 usd [11:54] wireless routers are already shifting to nand. nand has better wear leveling. [11:55] so doing updates all the time and treating them like a normal file system isn't so bad [12:06] ugh... still have a bit of hangover, and it's noon already. [12:06] normally don't get hangovers, but drank some wine yesteray. [12:06] wine can be special like that [12:06] white wine can give me headaches when normal alcohol doesn't [12:07] pdx sky club doesn't have hard liquor [12:07] even before the next day. [12:07] just beer/wine [14:15] hangover happily gone... replaced by a vodka/soda buzz. :) [15:30] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [16:56] *** sga0_ has joined #arpnetworks [16:58] *** sga0__ has joined #arpnetworks [16:59] *** sga0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:01] *** sga0_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [17:14] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [18:14] *** d^_^b has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [19:22] can anyone confirm Google's PMTU issue still exists? [19:23] it started for me long before anyone else.. [20:10] *** reardencode has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [20:11] *** reardencode has joined #arpnetworks [21:06] DNS Made Easy sent this to me back in 2010 : http://pastebin.com/UceGKXpP [21:19] i like it when people notify of issues [21:19] but what made you suddenly bring this up from years bacK? amazon's outage? [21:31] It came up in a discussion I had with someone regarding how folks generally dont like disclosing issues [21:31] I think you mean Azure's outage [22:04] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [22:21] cloudfront? [22:23] nvm, I see the outage report now [22:43] so azure also had an outage today? [22:49] seems samsung 850 pros are down in cost now [22:55] Azure was like a week / 10 days ago: http://azure.microsoft.com/blog/2014/11/19/update-on-azure-storage-service-interruption/ [22:55] are any big web sites hosted on them? [22:55] i didn't notice anything [22:55] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/11/azure-went-down-and-people-actually-noticed/ [22:55] i do half remember hearing about azure problems at some point though [22:55] Ars Technica: "Azure went down, and people actually noticed" [22:57] wow people lost data in the azure thing [23:07] One of the comments: "If you want to run a big portion of the Internet then you need to act like an infrastructure provider and not a desktop applications vendor. " [23:11] haha