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| josephb | mnathani: did you hear the pin drop? | [02:02] |
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| pyvpx | are we on the Sprint network? | [02:19] |
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| forgotten | ahh my ears | [08:14] |
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| hazardous | pyvpx: i don't get the reference | [10:26] |
| m0unds | hazardous: we get it, you're young | [10:28] |
| brycec | I equate the pin-drop with MCI... maybe I'm mis-remembering | [10:34] |
| m0unds | it was sprint, their logo was the "trail" of a pin dropping for years
that triangular thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ae2hrsvQYs | [10:48] |
| BryceBot | YouTube People: "Sprint Pin Drop 1987" by 1valvashon (30s), 1,061 views, 1 like and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-02-04T04:49:50.000Z. | [10:51] |
| m0unds | that has the old old old logo, but the more triangular one had some superimposed pin bouncing thing that turns into the logo. can't remember when that was | [10:52] |
| brycec | LOL I'd forgotten the name "US Sprint" | [10:54] |
| m0unds | yeah, hahaha
and that awful typeface looks like a video game logo from the 80s err, title rather | [10:55] |
| brycec | brycec remembers when long-distance rates were not only a thing, but fluctuated throughout the day
brycec does not miss it "$8 for an hour of calls" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6qsFWtWNXI | [10:56] |
| BryceBot | YouTube Entertainment: "MCI commercial" by jmtrexler (30s), 2,530 views, 3 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2008-07-28T19:36:16.000Z. | [10:56] |
| brycec | heh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrrCF73r5s | [10:57] |
| BryceBot | YouTube Entertainment: "MCI Commercial with Leonard Nimoy, TOS Cast and Jonathan Frakes" by leony331 (1m 6s), 73,937 views, 790 likes and 2 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-05-03T14:40:07.000Z. | [10:58] |
| brycec | brycec is done hating himself | [10:58] |
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| m0unds | hahahah
nice | [11:23] |
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| mnathani | what is the typical amount of time after placing a call using a voip service like voip.ms that the phone on the other side starts ringing?
other side is a cellphone (non voip) the voip.ms pop is 10ms away | [18:47] |
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| mkb | I've never used voip.me, but through Flowroute it's more or less instant
to call a landline. cell phones usually take a second or two | [19:12] |
| brycec | 2-10 seconds
(my experience with cellphones) (because I don't have a landline to call) | [19:13] |
| mnathani | takes me around 20 seconds | [19:15] |
| brycec | <1 second from voip.ms to voip.ms in the same pop | [19:17] |
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| mercutio | it's about 2 to 4 seconds normally mnathani
but it can depend on interconnect/switching systems a lot same as with legacy phone, calling some places can take an insane amount of time, and tends to be worse internationally. | [19:41] |
| staticsafe | aye | [19:42] |
| mercutio | bryce: i imagine voip systems are actually quicker than non voip.
in general. sometimes you hear it changing too now i have to test it | [19:42] |
| mnathani | there is an SPA3102 connected to an analog phone which uses a voip.ms account << which is originating the call
not sure if that changes anything | [19:43] |
| mercutio | 4 or 5 seconds just now
then 7 or 8 seconds the second time. wow that's landline to cell and going off the ring of cell rather than of phone 3 seconds other way around but it rung on cell before that also strangely my cell isn't showing all the callerid information i wonder if cell being slow is partially because the phone falls asleep | [19:44] |
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| m0unds | calling my voip.ms line via at&t mobility, it rings within 2 seconds of starting the call on my cell
and it rings in my office before i hear the ringing tone on the mobile | [20:25] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [20:25] |
| m0unds | HAW HAW BRYCEBOT UR SO GUD | [20:25] |
| mnathani | BryceBot: no | [20:25] |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'and it rings in my office before i hear the ringing tone on the mobile' | [20:25] |
| m0unds | same w/flowroute and vitelity | [20:25] |
| mnathani | thats pstn to voip? | [20:26] |
| m0unds | yes | [20:26] |
| mnathani | how about voip to pstn? | [20:26] |
| m0unds | too lazy to get the device and dial out
it's upstairs i'm 9ms from the pop i use in denver on voip.ms anyway 17ms to vitelity and similar to flowroute | [20:26] |
| mercutio | m0unds: do you also get longer delay calling cell from voip?
i'd never really paid attention or noticed before | [20:27] |
| m0unds | not that i've noticed
it terminates quickly | [20:27] |
| mnathani | which voip provider has best call quality? | [20:27] |
| mercutio | it was only when i tried :)
mnathani: they're all the same pretty much ie terrible. | [20:27] |
| m0unds | the codec used on a mobile is likely going to sound shittier than voup | [20:28] |
| mercutio | as long as you use g711 through you're doing the best you can pretty much. | [20:28] |
| m0unds | voip | [20:28] |
| mnathani | I would be willing to pay more for a premium service | [20:28] |
| m0unds | for most networks anyway | [20:28] |
| mercutio | m0unds: exactly.
and everyone uses mobile skype works way better :) | [20:28] |
| m0unds | tmo and at&t sound ok, sprint and verizon both sound like ass in nm at least | [20:29] |
| mercutio | they're introducing hd voice here, but not between providers :(
i wonder how hd voice to landline would be or to voip | [20:29] |
| m0unds | that's so lame
i guess it's probably a pain to switch it bw providers vs calls on the same provider maybe in the future | [20:29] |
| mercutio | well we have 3 mobile providers here and only 2 of them are doing hd voice. | [20:29] |
| brycec | Fun fact: my watch shows the incoming call notification before my phone actually rings, by several seconds. | [20:30] |
| mercutio | yeah i'm hoping. can you do hd voice between providers there? | [20:30] |
| m0unds | brycec: fancy. which watch? | [20:30] |
| brycec | Pebble | [20:30] |
| m0unds | i like the displays on those | [20:30] |
| mercutio | is that a smart watch? | [20:30] |
| brycec | Yes | [20:30] |
| m0unds | i'd have a hard time giving up my beat up old g-shock though | [20:30] |
| mercutio | i kind of read up a bit about smart watches, and they looked like they may be good in the future | [20:30] |
| brycec | (so the call has reached my cell phone, in order to be pushed to my watch, before the phone rings) | [20:31] |
| mercutio | and that the samsung one was pretty good but samsung specific.
how do you find having a smart watch in general? | [20:31] |
| brycec | lol "hdvoice landline" there are technical limitations... | [20:31] |
| mercutio | brycec: well voip.. | [20:32] |
| brycec | (inherent to electrical telephony and the systems built around it) | [20:32] |
| mercutio | brycec: but ther eisn't really.
the codecs better than gsm. or whatever codec is being used normally so even if it's terminating at 8k it'll still be better. | [20:32] |
| brycec | There isn't a codec in in landline phones until the wiring is terminated, and by then it's fairly meh
(source: I design telephony equipment at my day job) | [20:32] |
| mercutio | brycec: i'm talknig about the codecs on mobile networks. | [20:33] |
| brycec | But I wasn't :p | [20:33] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [20:33] |
| brycec | BryceBot: no | [20:33] |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'But I wasn't :p' | [20:33] |
| brycec | mercutio: Smartwatch is pretty handy, I like it a lot. | [20:33] |
| mercutio | BryceBot: well i was trying to say that hd voice should still help, even if terminating on boring old isdn.
uhh what, why does bryce<tab> terminate to the bot grr. | [20:33] |
| brycec | Blame your client :p | [20:34] |
| mercutio | maybe the bot should be called botbryice. | [20:34] |
| brycec | I think that gives the wrong impression | [20:34] |
| m0unds | i get brycec before BryceBot
weechat knows (tm) | [20:34] |
| brycec | I get BryceBot, but then... I am brycec | [20:35] |
| m0unds | you shouldn't be speaking to yourself | [20:35] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [20:35] |
| brycec | weechat is configurable to tab-complete with whomever spoke recently. | [20:35] |
| mercutio | m0unds: i'm using weechat. | [20:35] |
| m0unds | yea, i think it does it by default | [20:35] |
| mercutio | oh now i get brycec, weird. | [20:35] |
| m0unds | haha | [20:35] |
| mercutio | oh maybe that's what's happening
how do we make bot talk | [20:35] |
| m0unds | i want a big sausage | [20:36] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [20:36] |
| brycec | BryceBot: o/ | [20:36] |
| BryceBot | o | [20:36] |
| mercutio | BryceBot: | [20:36] |
| brycec | Hi BryceBot | [20:36] |
| BryceBot | Hello to you too, brycec | [20:36] |
| mercutio | yip
you got it | [20:36] |
| brycec | etc | [20:36] |
| mercutio | when brycebot talks most recently it tabl completes to him
and you never know when he'll talk ! where i have the most call quality issues is when hitting ivr systems and going international normally. | [20:36] |
| brycec | s/he/it/ | [20:37] |
| BryceBot | <mercutio> witre i have tit most call quality issues is witn hitting ivr systems and going international normally. | [20:37] |
| mercutio | or otherwise being shit.
haha | [20:37] |
| brycec | lol | [20:37] |
| m0unds | s/tit/bananas | [20:37] |
| mercutio | s/l/s/ | [20:37] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> sos | [20:37] |
| brycec | my point being that BryceBot is an "it" | [20:37] |
| mercutio | with a name like bryce? | [20:38] |
| brycec | it's a name like "BryceBot"
PS "bryce" is an androgynous name, equally male and female | [20:38] |
| m0unds | s/Bryce/Potato | [20:38] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> it's a name like "PotatoBot" | [20:38] |
| mercutio | oh really. i didn't realise that. | [20:38] |
| brycec | lol m0unds you need to move to Boise... | [20:39] |
| mercutio | it's always male around here | [20:39] |
| m0unds | considere dit
considered also | [20:39] |
| brycec | eww, m0unds | [20:39] |
| m0unds | kidding
haha | [20:39] |
| mercutio | interesting
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bryce | [20:39] |
| brycec | mercutio: It's always been male around my house too :P But apparently it's a woman's name too | [20:39] |
| BryceBot | Urban Dictionary: "bryce" bryce
a guy who is excellent in bed, and you are amazed of his capabilities | [20:39] |
| brycec | @ud Bryce | [20:39] |
| BryceBot | Bryce: a guy who is excellent in bed, and you are amazed of his capabilities <2007-11-11T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "That guy last night was a bryce for sure" | [20:39] |
| brycec | @wiki Bryce Dallas Howard | [20:39] |
| BryceBot | Bryce Dallas Howard :: Bryce Dallas Howard (born March 2, 1981) is an American film actress, writer and director. The daughter of director Ron Howard, she made her acting debut in her father's film Parenthood (1989) and went on to have small roles in films and make stage appearances for the next several years. During this time she also attended New York University's Tisch School of... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce%20Dallas%20Howard | [20:39] |
| mercutio | most names are terrible from memory on ud | [20:40] |
| brycec | @ud mercutio | [20:40] |
| BryceBot | mercutio: The best character in Romeo in Juliet.rMakes fun of Romeo by saying he puts his penis into a woman's vagina. Not literally. Here's the excerpt:rMercutio: Why, is it not this better now than groaning for love? Now art thou sociable, now art thou Romeo, now art thout what thou art, by art as well as by nature. For this driveling love is like a great natural that runs lolling up and down to hide his bauble (penis) in a hole (vagina). <20 | [20:40] |
| brycec | @ud m0unds | [20:41] |
| BryceBot | Error, No definitions could be found for: m0unds | [20:41] |
| m0unds | m0unds is a winner | [20:41] |
| mercutio | @ud mounds | [20:41] |
| BryceBot | mounds: on a woman, the soft pad of fat over the pubic bone, just above the vulva <2003-12-09T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "at the last moment, I pulled it out and ejaculated onto her mound" | [20:41] |
| m0unds | s/winner/something-unflattering | [20:41] |
| BryceBot | >>> m0unds is a something-unflattering | [20:41] |
| m0unds | wonderful
hahaha | [20:41] |
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| mnathani | @ud up_the_irons | [21:31] |
| BryceBot | Error, No definitions could be found for: up_the_irons | [21:31] |
| mnathani | @ud Garry | [21:31] |
| BryceBot | Garry: Racist term for asian migrants living in a western country. rStruggle with the local language with a thick accent. Often use an adopted 'western' first name and use their birth name as a middle name. <2006-04-18T00:00:00+00:00> Example: ""Have you met the new garry's living in our street? Michael and Rebecca Chang are their names"." | [21:31] |
| mnathani | @ud Dolley | [21:32] |
| BryceBot | Dolley: Puttin a girl on a dolley andstaping her down. Doin her and rollin her around the house. <2007-05-05T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "I gave the bitch a dolley and left her out in the garage." | [21:32] |
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| mercutio | mnathani: that's the kind of unflattering stuff you expect from ud. | [21:58] |
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| JC_Denton | probably a dumb question, but is it possible to get an 8 GB (RAM) VM? or is that crossing into dedi territory? | [22:51] |
| mnathani | JC_Denton: interesting question
I know dedi at ARP start at 8 GB any reason why you don't want a dedicated box ? | [23:02] |
| brycec | What's more is that a 4GB VPS is $80/mo, an 8GB dedi is $129/mo (plus more disk space, CPU, bw, etc) | [23:05] |
| mnathani | although dedicated the disk is not RAID / redundant by default
VPS disk is on a RAID 10 array | [23:06] |
| brycec | But dedi you can get an SSD
JC_Denton: To build the largest VPS up to 8GB will end up costing you $160/mo ($80 base + 16 * 256MB @ $5/mo), or an 8GB ded is $129/mo. You're probably better off with the dedicate box if you really do need 8GB RAM. | [23:08] |
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| mnathani | brycec: perhaps up_the_irons can build a custom VPS with better pricing than base + addons with that much RAM | [23:11] |
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| mercutio | JC_Denton: i'd go dedicated with 8gb of ram anyway myself.
then you can get 16gb even | [23:34] |
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| JC_Denton | yeah, dedi is my current thought - i was just curious though since i had seen some providers with 8 gb VMs | [23:41] |
| mercutio | yaeh some do
usually it's in a hybrid situation for such things you could probably get it if requesting it there are certain advantages to vm's. like if the node has an issue, you don't have to do as much | [23:45] |
| mnathani | you could run your own Virtual Instance on top of the dedicated box, giving you more control and ability to snapshot, clone etc | [23:46] |
| mercutio | that's what i'm doing mnathani ;)
i have xen on arp dedicated. | [23:47] |
| mnathani | kvm?
ahh | [23:47] |
| mercutio | i been using xen for years.
i prefer kvm if having no root and so i can run openbsd for my personal vm but if you just want to run virtual machines and have basic node access xen is fine. | [23:47] |
| mnathani | what os is the host | [23:48] |
| mercutio | ubuntu | [23:48] |
| mnathani | or is xen a bare metal hypervisor | [23:48] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [23:48] |
| mnathani | BryceBot: no | [23:48] |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'or is xen a bare metal hypervisor' | [23:48] |
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| mercutio | xen is bare metal hypervisor
but you still have dom0 that controls file systems etc i'm using zfs on linux i used to use opensolaris/xen with zfs. | [23:48] |
| mnathani | any RAID ? | [23:48] |
| mercutio | 3 hard-disks
i think yeah 3x1tb. raid 10 at start of disk then zfs in raidz i'm hardly using any disk space it seems atm. | [23:48] |
| mnathani | is OpenSolaris still maintained / any good? | [23:49] |
| mercutio | you raise your iops with 3 disks.
mnathani: no mnathani: that's why i'm using linux now. but before oracle i used opensolaris for a while | [23:49] |
| mnathani | you folllowing the systemd vs init discussion? | [23:50] |
| mercutio | yes
i use arch linux at home i hate sytemctl but kind of like it | [23:50] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [23:50] |
| mercutio | it's kind of like saying you like windows. | [23:50] |
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| mercutio | or that apple has nice hardware.
systemctl is pretty cool, but it can be damn annnoying. i still get confused by it | [23:50] |
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| mercutio | i always liked /etc/rc.local myself
and /etc/rc.conf there's something blaringly obvious about having everything that's happening in a small space. it's kind of like that feeling when you can look at a perl script and it's only one page vs one that's 20 pages. | [23:51] |
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| mercutio | you're not looking for what's relevant, it's right there in front of you.
where systemctl is cool is things like: | [23:53] |
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| mercutio | systemd-analyze blame
and without blame Startup finished in 3.441s (firmware) + 5.265s (loader) + 2.908s (kernel) + 11.470s (userspace) = 23.085s i kind of think that things are getting a bit too complicated though. | [23:54] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [23:56] |
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