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m0undsgizmoguy: http://www.stonebrewing.com/burningrosids/ this is really good [19:35]
gizmoguysad story :(
but in happier news, I booked flights to LAX for next year
doing a pub crawl around SFO
[19:40]
m0undsyeah
awesome
gonna fly from lax to sfo?
or drive?
[19:41]
gizmoguynot sure yet [19:42]
m0undssan fransisco is a neat city, haven't been there in a long time
the drive from LA to SF is pretty nice too, but long (6hrs or so without traffic)
[19:44]
brycec(and 8 if you take the scenic route...) [19:52]
m0undsyeah, coastal route is prettier [19:52]
brycec(scenic == ^I5)
I drove SEA-LAX (and back) last year, loooong drive
[19:52]
m0undseek
my friend rode his motorcycle from vancouver, wa to irvine, ca to albuquerque to salt lake city back to vancouver last year
[19:54]
brycecIt wasn't so bad, had a friend co-driving [19:56]
m0unds3000-someodd miles [19:56]
brycec1,100 each way
or 1200 depending on route
Good times were had
[19:56]
m0undsdid you just burn straight through it or stop to do stuff along the way? [19:56]
brycecAnd it was cool having someone else with me to drive. I'd never pushed my car for so long.
Only stops were for gas
And food
[19:57]
m0undsoof
i hate doing more than ~500-600mi/day, haha
[19:57]
brycecOther than that, the car ran and drove for 20-ish hours, I was proud of it :D [19:57]
m0undsnice [19:57]
brycecYeah same here. When I moved from AZ to WA, it was three days of driving because I can't drive more than 500-800 without my knee locking up and being very, very painful
Plus staying awake and such
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m0undsyeah, i can't stretch my legs enough in the car (i'm 6'4) so it gets really uncomfortable after about 8 hrs in the car
my truck isn't as bad, but it's still not comfortable past about 8 hrs
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brycecWith cruise control, I can find various positions for me legs. But staying alert is a whole other ballgame [19:59]
m0undsyeah, and caffiene + fatigue from driving is just all sorts of fun [20:00]
brycecCaffeine has limited effect on me. Mostly it ends up killing time with frequent rest stops [20:01]
gizmoguypfft 6 hours is a short drive
gizmoguy lives in a country where 8 hour drives aren't that strange
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brycecgizmoguy: You have better scenery I'm betting :PO
* :P
[20:07]
gizmoguyyeah for sure [20:07]
m0undshaha
one of our breweries won best small brewery in the us at GABF
[20:08]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [20:09]
brycecWhile we're off-topic... When defusing/disarming a bomb using C4, why can't one simply pull the blasting caps out of the C4? [20:09]
m0undsnot as dramatic [20:09]
gizmoguyalso i'm in our beer capital this week for work [20:09]
m0undsnice [20:09]
brycecnice [20:09]
gizmoguyI've managed 1 out of 1 night this week drinking
aiming for 5
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m0undshaha
i did a sort of brewery tour while i was up in durango at the end of last week, lots of good beer there too
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/chef-marcus-peter-volke-killed-dismembered-and-cooked-girlfriend-in-teneriffe-apartment/story-fnihsrf2-1227080803355?nk=197db8e38229b86ace5561362f36fe4b
delicious
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [20:33]
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mercutiogizmoguy: beer capital? [20:50]
m0undsone of my fav bands has a new album coming out - they're from napier [20:51]
mercutiogizmoguy: is that the normal capital? [20:51]
gizmoguymercutio: wellington [21:01]
mercutionelson has a lot of beer..
but i thought you'd have more reason to be in wellington.
[21:01]
gizmoguythere's 2 new craft beer bars since I last was here
I was last here in August
[21:02]
mercutiosounds hip. [21:02]
m0undsdo you guys get imports, or is it mostly local/domestic? [21:02]
mercutiomost beer in nz seems to be brewed in nz.
even international beers.
craft may be a bit different though. i don't drink craft beer. :)
my beer all seems to come from auckland.
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gizmoguymercutio: http://www.hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html
here's a good overview of what I have to drink
[21:04]
m0undscult beer bar, haha [21:05]
mercutioyeah i haven't tried any of them
i've been getting into mac's ginger beer :)
[21:05]
m0undsahhh, mikkeller stuff is good
hard to find here
[21:05]
mercutiothese are all pretty expensive :) [21:07]
m0undsyeah they are, geez [21:08]
mercutiothe cheapest is $7.50 for one bottle 300ml.
and normal bottles are 330ml.
[21:09]
m0undsla chouffe is good [21:10]
mercutioand $12. [21:10]
m0undsthat's close to what i'd spend for a 750ml bottle here in the us [21:10]
mercutioUS $0.8 to NZ $1 atm
approx
[21:10]
m0undsyeah, it's about $9 here [21:10]
mercutioand our alcohol is heavily taxed [21:10]
m0undschimay red, price is on par
ouch
any type of alcohol, or just spirits?
[21:11]
mercutioall alcohol.
it's about 60% i think
oh what
it's lower than that
it's only 10% for beer and 38% for spirits apparently.
that makes no sense, because when it went up, things went up by like 10%
$25.476 per litre of alcohol
hmm
[21:11]
m0undsah [21:14]
mercutio$46.400 per litre of alcohol for spirits [21:14]
m0undsthat's a bummer [21:14]
mercutioso 40% vodka, a litre is like $46/2.5
$18.40
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m0undsi think there's probably taxation built into liquor sales here, but i have no idea what it'd be [21:14]
mercutioand it's about $40
maybe a bit more
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m0undsouch [21:15]
mercutiothere's also gst at 15%
so it's probably about half the cost in taxes.
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m0undsawful, haha
craft beer drinking at breweries in durango, co last week and my most expensive pint was $4
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mercutiothat sounds ok.
i hardly drink anymore anyway.
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m0undshttp://brewpubkitchen.com/ this place was good [21:17]
mercutioso i suppose it doesn't matter that much spending a little more.
and it's amazing how much tolerance goes down.
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m0undsyeah, haha [21:17]
brycecFYI BryceBot can convert currencies ;D [21:17]
mercutioi can feel a single beer these days. [21:17]
brycec@exch 1 NZD USD [21:17]
BryceBot1 NZD -> 0.77992291241934 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:17]
mercutioyou don't need more than two places :) [21:17]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [21:17]
m0undshttp://carverbrewing.com/brewery.html this place was good too; their barrel aged amber tasted like nila wafers
hahaha
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brycecmercutio: Actually in currency trading, you do :P [21:18]
m0unds@exchg 31.50 NZD USD [21:18]
mercutioi looked at house prices in the US before.. some places are really cheap.. some are more edxpensive than nz though. [21:18]
m0undsoh, it doesn't calculate, just base? [21:18]
mercutioin trading you might, but not on irc :) [21:18]
brycecm0unds: or you failed at typing [21:18]
m0undsoh, g
@exch 31.50 NZD USD
[21:18]
BryceBot31.50 NZD -> 24.567571741209 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:18]
brycecmercutio: Also the exchange rate is given out to several places, so I just pass it through [21:19]
mercutio@exch 4 usd nzd [21:19]
BryceBot4 USD -> 5.128712 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:19]
brycecbecause why not [21:19]
mercutiobryce: to make it easier to read :)
otherwise you have to calculate that 5.128 is 5.13
[21:19]
m0unds@exch 211000 USD NZD [21:19]
brycecmeh, plenty easy imo [21:19]
BryceBot211000 USD -> 270539.558 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:19]
brycecUS housing prices, like many places, vary wildly depending on where you are. A simple single-family residence will typically range from 50k to 500k [21:20]
m0undsyea ^ that's my home value
but same thing in ca would probably be half a million
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mercutiom0unds: yteh that's real cheap compared to here [21:21]
m0unds2100 sq ft, quarter acre lot, built in mid 2000s
we bought it as a foreclosure in 2010 for $147500
super low price for the area too
probably the only reason we bought in abq, otherwise we mighta ended up in CO
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mercutiomedian value is around $740,000 nzd
@exch 740000 nzd usd
[21:22]
BryceBot740000 NZD -> 577142.95519031 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:23]
m0undsouch [21:23]
mercutioit's gone up heaps
in 2010 it was more like $540,000
[21:23]
m0undswow [21:23]
mercutiohmm all the schools near my house are decile 10 for schools, which is the ranking they use to decide how much money the government gives to schools.
so it's a "higher wealth" area.
where decile 1 is lowest.
it generally means that public schools have less resources and ask people to donate stuff etc.
a friend lives somewhere with decile 1 and 2 schools, and average value there is $330,000
@exch 330000 nzd to usd
[21:24]
BryceBot330000 NZD -> 257374.56109838 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:26]
mercutioand that's in a cheaper city too.
so yeah, your house is real cheap.. :)
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brycec@exch 740000 nzd usd 2010-06-06 [21:58]
BryceBot740000 NZD -> 499674.1989176 USD (as of Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:00:00 -0700) [21:58]
brycecHistorical data ^
mercutio: ^^ if you're interested
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mercutio@exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 09 01 [23:37]
BryceBot740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700) [23:37]
mercutio@exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 06 01 [23:38]
BryceBot740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700) [23:38]
mercutioweird it's not that diff
oh
@exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-09-01
[23:38]
BryceBot740000 NZD -> 620334.91379021 USD (as of Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:00:00 -0700) [23:38]
mercutioso $50,000 less it's worth now..
well $2k
err $42k
@exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-06-01
[23:39]
BryceBot740000 NZD -> 628599.04809717 USD (as of Sun, 01 Jun 2014 16:00:00 -0700) [23:39]
mercutio$50k diff from june... the exchange rate does make a diff [23:40]

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